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Anyone who has used GNOME on mobile, do you know how the fuck to change your lockscreen password. I can't find it anywhere.

@BrodieOnLinux I tried gnome on mobile for about a week and it kinda just sucks. Phosh is currently the best mobile DE imo.
Brodie Robertson

@weirdtreething I was sent a device so I'm using it first with what they sent me

Edit: actually I guess it is phosh? I don't know the mobile space too well

@BrodieOnLinux @weirdtreething I love how they target it towards Linux users, yet there absolutely NO specs on their webpage...

According to their kernel sources it's MT6833 SoC (Dimensity 700 5G), same core complex as MT8186 (2x A76, 4x A55) with slightly better GPU (Mali G75 instead of G52 in MT8186). So at least it should have semi-decent performance, and mainline kernel should at least boot with half-working power management.
@elly @weirdtreething @BrodieOnLinux though with all that, they're shipping android-flavoured systems, with all the drawbacks it entails. And when questioned, are extremely evasive regarding a future with mainline Linux. (Their upstreaming story is reportedly not great, but I haven't had the energy to verify claims.)
@samueldr @weirdtreething @BrodieOnLinux I talked to them at FOSDEM. After processing the mess, here goes:

There are no debug interfaces available without opening the device. When asked about mainlining, they evaded questions by answering "maaaaaybe sometimes in the future".

Asked about the firmware, they replied that it's "custom".
After giving them a look "I know you're bullshitting, there's no way a small company made firmware implementation from scratch" and saying "So... EDK2? U-Boot?" they started mansplaining lk2nd to me.

I played with the device, which obviously uses vendor-provided sources (BusyBox in their "custom" firmware is using kernel 4.19...).

Basically another Android phone cosplaying as Linux phone (thanks to halium) with no proper support from the vendor (patches they push to their kernel tree look like someone's just pushing commits to appear busy to their manager).

They want to appear as company that offers products to enthusiasts, but in the end it's just Pine64: Electric Bogaloo....

Except it's worse, since Pine64 at least did put *some* effort into postmarketOS instead of forking Debian aarch64 and slapping their logo on it. Or, if you prefer - taking from Linux Mobile efforts/community to capitalize on it, without contributing anything back.

I'm not even mad, I'm just disappointed.

@elly @samueldr @weirdtreething My main reason for wanting to mess with it was to see the experience of using Phosh, playing around with Waydroid and things like that, but it would be nice if it went all the way

@BrodieOnLinux @elly @samueldr See if you can pick up a cheap Oneplus 6T or Pixel 3a. IMO they are the best devices to try out mobile linux on.

@BrodieOnLinux
Essentially a desktop environment that uses Gnome's compositor and is made to look like Gnome. This is where Libadwaita stems from before being adopted as an official project.

Since libadwaita was officially added into GNOME, there's been an attempt to make GNOME more mobile friendly, making PHOSH redundant however there's still a few projects using it by default due to it's history in the Linux mobile relm.
@weirdtreething

@liamolua @weirdtreething Actually playing around with it, this feels like a mobile UI made by what desktop developers think a mobile UI is, which kind of accurately explains it