Also #ChromeOS supports #Android-Apps and if you don't have administrative privilegues on a machine then consider it insecure and nit trustworthy for yourself as a user!

#ArgumentInvalid

**hexaheximal** @hexaheximal@wetdry.world · Dec 22, 2023 *

Dec 22, 2023 *

hexaheximal @hexaheximal@wetdry.world

@kkarhan @esm Not all chromeos devices do. (e.g. ones where apps are restricted by management), and there are still other scenarios where a web app is the best/only way to do it. #ArgumentValid

**hexaheximal** @hexaheximal@blob.cat · Dec 23, 2023

Dec 23, 2023

hexaheximal @hexaheximal@blob.cat

@hexaheximal @kkarhan @esm I also forgot about the most obvious thing...

Back in the 90s, Bill Gates infamously decided to kill Netscape. He did it because he knew that web apps would make the operating system irrelevant.

While his solution was wrong, he correctly predicted that web apps were going to take over.

Look at all of the desktop apps which are just Electron wrappers now too. It's very common. (and before you say that electron is bad and discard it, which is likely, https://github.com/nukeop/nuclear/blob/master/docs/electron.md)

> Any #E2EE #Messenger with #SelfCustody of all Keys should be considered security-sensitive and thus should not he used as a #WebApp.

This is irrelevant too. Browsers have really good sandboxing nowadays, and on chromium you can even create multiple profiles within the UI. The reality is that, as long as the client-side code can be trusted (reminder that you can self-host element and/or cinny if you don't trust it - I've done that before) as well as the browser itself, it's about the same in terms of security.

You are fighting against reality.

GitHubnuclear/docs/electron.md at master · nukeop/nuclearStreaming music player that finds free music for you - nukeop/nuclear

**Kevin Karhan** @kkarhan · Dec 23, 2023

Dec 23, 2023

Kevin Karhan @kkarhan

@hexaheximal@blob.cat @esm @hexaheximal@wetdry.world
You may call me a #minimalism evangelist but

everytime something that could've been barely Megabytes as an #AppImage, #FlatPak, #Snap or Kilobytes as a #CLI tool instead shoves yet another entire half gig copy of the #Bloatware-#Browser that is #Chromium onto the Desktop despite using not even 0,1% of it's featureset

I call this a systemic failure in Software Architecture.

Browsers are the most attacked applications on #Linux beyond CMSes and Webservers...

**Kevin Karhan** @kkarhan · Dec 23, 2023

Dec 23, 2023

Kevin Karhan @kkarhan

@hexaheximal@blob.cat @esm @hexaheximal@wetdry.world ...and even if we think local #WebApps are a legitimate way to handle sensitive comms - they ain't but let's just assume they are for the sake of argument - WHY would you do anything beyond a .desktop file that includes startup parameters for #Firefox (or even #Chrome if you're that kind of Cyber-Masochist!) that specify the browser, and the file to load.

Because any good #WebApp should be reduceable as #HTML5 + #JS6 + #CSS3 and measured in kB or maybe a few MB.

**Kevin Karhan** @kkarhan · Dec 23, 2023 *

Dec 23, 2023 *

Kevin Karhan @kkarhan

@hexaheximal@blob.cat @esm @hexaheximal@wetdry.world Shit like #Discord is an abomination and #Microsoft only won because regulators are systematically dysfunctional, corrupt and staffed with #TechIlliterates, otherwise all the #GAFAMs, #Adobe and #Autodesk among others would've been forcibly disbanded the same way #StandardOil was.

Microsoft feared #Linux but nowadays they basically gave up on #Desktop and #Server OSes since #Xbox, #Office365 & #Azure make the real profits & margins!

https://blob.cat/objects/29e2ce65-026f-4fb6-aa2a-2de2c1ebe4c5

blob.cathexaheximal (@hexaheximal@blob.cat)@hexaheximal @kkarhan @esm I also forgot about the most obvious thing... Back in the 90s, Bill Gates infamously decided to kill Netscape. He did it because he knew that web apps would make the ope...