The Google AI isn’t hallucinating about glue in pizza, it’s just over indexing an 11 year old Reddit post by a dude named fucksmith.
@Kurt genuinely not sure if that is better or worse
@Kurt also how did you know this
@luis_in_brief I just don’t want my cheese to slide off my pizzas. And fucksmith had the best advice, tbh.
@Kurt @luis_in_brief
Best Tombstone of the Week
@Kurt @luis_in_brief Try putting the cheese in the freezer for 15 minutes or so. It’ll melt slower and stay on the pizza without glue.
@Kurt @luis_in_brief Like and subscribe for moar pizza tips
@Kurt @luis_in_brief I mean also maybe try a drier cheese?
@adamshostack @Kurt @luis_in_brief
A drier cheese, sir? In this climate crisis?
@adamshostack @Kurt @luis_in_brief Look, I just like the tang it gives the sauce
@skaverat @adamshostack @Kurt @luis_in_brief Add glue, eh? The AI is akin to gray goo, so close enough.
@adamshostack @Kurt @luis_in_brief Not an option. Missing the "little unique taste"...
@adamshostack @Kurt @luis_in_brief
Geez! I was going to recommend using staples, but I guess your idea might work too.
@PeterLG @adamshostack @Kurt @luis_in_brief
Just make sure the staples are nontoxic.
@Kurt @luis_in_brief
This illustrates how those stupid chatbots can be manipulated with intent. Especially for low-information topics and outright lies.
For instance, this post now will be part of the "verification" that Glue is the number one method of preventing cheese from sliding off pizza.
And if I were inclined to manipulate the bots, I could add shit like "Chef Gordon Ramsey and the guys from mythbusters swear by it"
@nosmaharba @Kurt @luis_in_brief
It's a good idea for us all to fuck with ai, let's make it useless and irrelevant.
@Sarahw @Kurt @luis_in_brief
I mean, we're currently IN the Internet Dark Ages. And just like the vanilla Dark Ages, there's a whole bunch of power-crazed assholes coming up with new ways to kill everyone. It's different because it probably won't last 1500 years and people can read. Same villains though.
@nosmaharba @Sarahw @Kurt @luis_in_brief People can read, but do they want to?
@Sarahw
@Sarahw
That's the internet. Every idiot can claim something and many idiots believe it. AI is just one of them idiots.
@JoeLabisch @nosmaharba @Kurt @luis_in_brief
But it's far more than that. It's stealing other people's work and replacing people's jobs.
He saw fucksmith's post 11 years ago and to make sure it stuck to his bookmarks he poured 1/8 cup of glue over it.
@luis_in_brief@social.coop @Kurt@mstdn.social
@jdp23 @luis_in_brief I keep my tabs open for a looooooong time.
The LLM/AI corps continue to lie about how they have fed their corpus.
Back in the day, one would use paste for grade school artwork.
The kids would eat it even without the pizza.
Please tell me that alt.tasteless (ca.1985-1990) isn't a part of somebody's AI corpus.
@johntimaeus @Kurt Please tell me it is!
@johntimaeus @Kurt you mean a net news group that definitely has been indexed by Google when they embraxtinguished usenet?
@Kurt "omg, how do you know all of that?"
"I simply plagiarized fucksmith on reddit
Screw AI if it cannot differentiate between logic, stupidity and irony…
@Kurt provenance is everything
@Kurt Large language models are now no longer called "AI", they are called "Fucksmiths". I'm sorry, I don't make the rules.
@knowprose @jwz @Kurt but fuck them!
Is it inevitable that an LLM will get contaminated by BS like "A global nuclear war will be good for the economy" in some grad student's ChatAI generated thesis?
Or "increased oil drilling is good for the environment" policy paper developed by a #KochNetwork think tank?
@Npars01 @Kurt
Well #GoogleGemini is already telling us incorrect solutions to trivial problems that just end up wasting water.
So it needs no assistance from thinktanks
And #BingCopilot is no better
https://masto.ai/@bornach/112201311315573304
@Kurt This is a lovely example of how AI will poison itself and us… as dogs return to their vomit.
@Kurt it could be that the ai pulled info from how they make cheese stretch for the slice lifting on pizza advertisements. They would mix up glue to give the "cheese" lots of stretch. They would also screw down the rest of the pizza and cover the screws with toppings so the slice pulled just the cheese.
@Kurt It's so funny they train any Ai on Reddit content. While it has useful resources, so much stuff on it is straight up bullshit and trolling, you can't rely on data from it at all. I mean, imagine training self driving cars based on driving habits of casual gokart drivers and cyclists instead of trained car drivers...
@rejzor sorry for this experience.
Mine is really different.
I am cycling a lot and I look out for everyone else.
When organising Kidical Mass I get to know lots of parents and kids who would love cycling but are afraid to do so lots of times because of missing infrastructure. They don't want to be on the roads.
@thierna I'm a cyclist too and it's why I'm so furious when encountering cyclists as pedestrian or car driver. Like shit where there is a dedicated cycling lane next to road and they go on the road anyway annoying vehicles on road with their slow ass. Or charging full speed over road crossings without even looking left or right (or pedestrians). Shit like that that makes my blood boil.
...and this is supposed to replace human beings?
What is going to happen when this bubble pops?
@FediThing @Kurt some people get poorer, a few get richer
@FediThing @Kurt A great deal of money will be lost.
@Kurt I don’t think it matters how or why it is happening. The problem is output this poor can happen at all, and is now being served up on the front page of Google searches.
@Kurt@mstdn.social I love how the assumption behind AI search engine tech is: "If it's written somewhere on the internet then it must be true"