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stux⚡

Does anyone has a LGM-30 Minuteman rocket laying around by any chance?

I have some highly radioactive "orange goo" that really needs to get into deep space ASAP

It's no option to store it in jails on Earth, too dangerous 🚀

Saturn V will also do 👍

@stux@mstdn.social Sorry I already promised Yassie my rocket for her grappling hook project.

@stux@mstdn.social I wish! I have one branded "Spacex" or something and it keeps coming back ​:annoyedeline:

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Come on, you can just put them in the rocket, fill with CO2, remove contents and use it again. SO much cheaper and easier.

@stux alas, Minuteman rockets can't achieve an escape trajectory. I recommend using a Falcon 9, getting rid of two pieces of trash at once.

@stux Planetary Protection prohibits us from inflicting Donald Trump upon the universe.

Likewise for Elon Musk and other billionaires.

@stux his good friend Elno Smuk has a rocket somewhere. Then they can go on a trip to mars together.

@crispius Oooh not the sun! :bloblaugh:

That's such a WASTE of energy 😉

Just over LEO would be okay, gravity 'll do the rest over time 💭

@stux @crispius I do think it needs to be at escape velocity, otherwise there is a risk of reentry.

Aim for proxima centauri, if you want to hit the "into the sun" effect for less Delta-v

@stux @crispius or just opt for the bielliptic transfer, for the "into the sun, but at the cost of escape velocity delta-v"

@sophieschmieg @stux @crispius Hmm, now I'm wondering how long that would take for the solar system..., starting from Earth.

@sophieschmieg @stux @crispius just make them reentry on a unshielded capsule? or just put them under the next rocket that goes up. or just kill them with a rock.

no, wait...

@sophieschmieg @stux @crispius Reentry might be an acceptable outcome though, if what you are really interested in is just bringing the heat.

(no heat shields ofc, that would cost delta v)

@sophieschmieg I'd be ok with aiming for Jupiter and actually watching them hit dead center.

@stux @crispius

@wonka Mars is closer. For that matter, the moon is closer. You wouldn't even need a telescope to see the "landing."

@crispius @stux Personally, I like the finality of launching them into the sun. Send them out into the solar system and they might get "rescued" by an alien life form and make a move to take over the universe.

@crispius @stux A catapult launch into a stone wall would not only be satisfying to watch but would also not use any fossil fuels....

@crispius @stux listen to Char. Char will not give you bad advice.

(This is a lie Char is 95% composed of bad advice)

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The conversation that spawned from this post is what I love most about Mastodon. 🫶

@crispius @stux FWIW, it takes the same amount of delta-v to launch them into the Sun or out of the Solar System, assuming you use gravity slingshot maneuvers.

Basically, the least delta-v either way uses a Jupiter flyby. The minimum delta-v to reach Jupiter at all provides a free gravity slingshot to either escape the Solar System or to reach Saturn with a good amount of C3. This is sufficient for a free gravity slingshot back toward the Sun.

@crispius @stux I feel like Star Trek: the Motion Picture has some pretty explicit warnings about sending stuff out of the solar system. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying the sun idea is very final.

@crispius @stux can't one aim in front of Venus and slingshot towards the Sun with some efficiency?

@crispius @stux I don’t mind splurging when angry.

@crispius @stux
The OceanGate approach is another option

@gcvsa The very short and simplified version:

1. in both cases we first need to get into low earth orbit spending most of your fuel fighting air drag and gravity instead of gaining speed.
2. while circling earth, our speed relative to the sun is ~29.8 km/s, just like earth itself.
3. to escape the solar system we would need ~42.1 km/s
4. to fall directly into the sun we would need to reduce our relative speed to close to 0 instead, so a bigger difference to overcome.

@crispius @stux It makes me irrationally upset to acknowledge that he's actually right. >:(

cc @MeiLin

@dragonarchitect @crispius @stux
Sending them out to a high and fast ballistic trajectory and now giving them a heat shield uses even less delta v and they burn up at reentry. That is a bit hotter than the surface of the Sun.

@crispius @stux It also makes the whole "X person was fired. Out of a cannon. Into the sun." a) more impressive on a technical scale and b) _really_ driving home the hatred for said person.

@stux Please send it to Mar a lardo. Please :-)

@3x10to8mps That's where the "payload" is stored indeed!

@stux feeling super unsafe rn

@bl4ze Ahhh 3.4! Not great, not terrible :nkoShrug: