Does anyone has a LGM-30 Minuteman rocket laying around by any chance?
I have some highly radioactive "orange goo" that really needs to get into deep space ASAP
It's no option to store it in jails on Earth, too dangerous
Saturn V will also do
@stux@mstdn.social Sorry I already promised Yassie my rocket for her grappling hook project.
@stux@mstdn.social I wish! I have one branded "Spacex" or something and it keeps coming back
Come on, you can just put them in the rocket, fill with CO2, remove contents and use it again. SO much cheaper and easier.
@stux alas, Minuteman rockets can't achieve an escape trajectory. I recommend using a Falcon 9, getting rid of two pieces of trash at once.
@stux Planetary Protection prohibits us from inflicting Donald Trump upon the universe.
Likewise for Elon Musk and other billionaires.
@stux his good friend Elno Smuk has a rocket somewhere. Then they can go on a trip to mars together.
@crispius Oooh not the sun!
That's such a WASTE of energy
Just over LEO would be okay, gravity 'll do the rest over time
@sophieschmieg @stux @crispius Hmm, now I'm wondering how long that would take for the solar system..., starting from Earth.
@sophieschmieg @stux @crispius just make them reentry on a unshielded capsule? or just put them under the next rocket that goes up. or just kill them with a rock.
no, wait...
@sophieschmieg @stux @crispius Reentry might be an acceptable outcome though, if what you are really interested in is just bringing the heat.
(no heat shields ofc, that would cost delta v)
@sophieschmieg I'd be ok with aiming for Jupiter and actually watching them hit dead center.
@wonka Mars is closer. For that matter, the moon is closer. You wouldn't even need a telescope to see the "landing."
@stux
The conversation that spawned from this post is what I love most about Mastodon.
@crispius @stux FWIW, it takes the same amount of delta-v to launch them into the Sun or out of the Solar System, assuming you use gravity slingshot maneuvers.
Basically, the least delta-v either way uses a Jupiter flyby. The minimum delta-v to reach Jupiter at all provides a free gravity slingshot to either escape the Solar System or to reach Saturn with a good amount of C3. This is sufficient for a free gravity slingshot back toward the Sun.
@gcvsa The very short and simplified version:
1. in both cases we first need to get into low earth orbit spending most of your fuel fighting air drag and gravity instead of gaining speed.
2. while circling earth, our speed relative to the sun is ~29.8 km/s, just like earth itself.
3. to escape the solar system we would need ~42.1 km/s
4. to fall directly into the sun we would need to reduce our relative speed to close to 0 instead, so a bigger difference to overcome.
@dragonarchitect @crispius @stux
Sending them out to a high and fast ballistic trajectory and now giving them a heat shield uses even less delta v and they burn up at reentry. That is a bit hotter than the surface of the Sun.
@stux Please send it to Mar a lardo. Please :-)
@3x10to8mps That's where the "payload" is stored indeed!
@bl4ze Ahhh 3.4! Not great, not terrible