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@renwillis@mstdn.social#MASTODON vs #THREADS Engagement Experiment
Followers:
Mastodon 1,031
Threads 26,800
3 posts at the same time on each.
Mastodon: 62 Hearts 24 Reblogs 4 Replies
Threads: 2 Hearts
26x followers! Bupkis.
Follower counts & the active users on a platform **DO. NOT. MATTER.** if the #algorithm doesn't bless your posts.
Let your creative friends know, Threads (and #Twitter / X of course) are not the solution.
@renwillis @Gargron @stux
Or maybe: Threads hates cats.
@ColesStreetPothole @Gargron @stux all the more reason to bail!
@ColesStreetPothole Is that even possible? 
@renwillis @Gargron
@stux @renwillis @Gargron
Threads' malevolence knows no bounds.
#ThreadsHatesCats
@ColesStreetPothole 
yep…just maybe…an anti cat site..
@ColesStreetPothole @renwillis @Gargron @stux
this theory might check out
@renwillis @Gargron 
love it!
Masto may not have the overwhelming numbers in people but we do in engagement 
@renwillis The random part does it there I guess, like what
@Gargron said recently. On Masto and most Fedi services you'll see the content you follow instead of something compiled by a bot
@renwillis Aha!
@stux @renwillis @Gargron I cant go back to any algorithmic and proprietary platform.
I LOVE IT SO MUCH when you see something nice in tusky on mobile, need that on the desktop, open the site, FIND IT AT THE SAME PLACE in the timeline
@stux @renwillis @Gargron yes we do! This is the place to hang out !
@renwillis @Gargron @stux this is fascinating!
On the one hand, I want to see this replicated. On the other hand, I've definitely been (pleasantly) surprised by the amount of engagement here on Mastodon. So this resonates with my experience.
@renwillis @Gargron @stux I downloaded Threads just to look and the algorithm just shows me boomer Facebook memes.
@renwillis
I would like to see this experiment with a mastodon and a bluesky account.
@Gargron @stux
@makeratschool @Gargron @stux Would love to see it too, but remember, if there’s an algorithm (and BS uses one) then you aren’t in control. The algorithm can and has changed on the whim of those in control. So even if you do get engagement now, it can be pulled fast. I used to get great engagement in the pre-reels days on IG, had over 200k followers at my peak! But alas, the powers changed the algo rules and it all floats away.
@renwillis @Gargron @stux Interesting. H been using BlueSky & Mastodon and so far getting better engagement on BlueSky. My interests/needs are different in that I mainly post wildlife images. Having to post the larger images on PixelFed and link to them on Mastodon is kludgy. Also, w/ BlueSky I can post to the #birds feed alone (for birds) and get good engagement. On Mastodon I use 3 different hashtags. Still learning & haven’t given up on Mastodon.
@Cliftographer @Gargron @stux That’s awesome! But my general philosophy is, if there’s an algorithm (and BS uses one) then you aren’t in control. The algorithm can and has changed on the whim of those in control. So enjoy the engagement while you can! I used to get great engagement in the pre-reels days on IG, had over 200k followers at my peak! But alas, the powers changed the algo rules and it all floats away.
@renwillis @Gargron @stux This was my experience on Xitter as well.
Over 4,000 “followers” and a typical post would get maybe 150 “views”.
My theory is that when Elon canceled the API, the large advertisers lost their ability to estimate the proportion of bots. They didn’t want to just throw away their money on clickfraud.
Back when I was on both #Mastodon and #Xitter, my engagement here was usually 8-12 times higher than Xitter-- with less than 3% of the Follower count-- on the exact same posts.
When advertisers make up 1/3 (or more) of a user feed, and when the algorithm throws trolls and unwelcome bots at users... then you don't have to compete as much for being seen.
When I first switched to mastodon two years ago, I still posted on Twitter for a while. I noted early on that with only several dozen followers on here, I was already getting more engagement than on Twitter with 1100 followers.
I only rarely post on Instagram, usually to announce that I put up a new blog post. Given that I virtually never engage there myself, it's surprising that I still get modest engagement, though very, very few people actually read the post or look at the rest of the photos on my site.
@renwillis @Gargron @stux
Zuck figures you get enough threads together to make the rope, then he'll be able to hang us all.
Fuck that guy and the platform he rode in on.
@renwillis @Gargron @stux the members are different. threads is full of faecesbook/instagram users that want to see awesome crap made by pretty influencers. the fediverse is full of enthusiastic people that have much more empathy. No surprise here.
@renwillis @Gargron @stux if the third one is not going to amaze you, I'm not even opening the vertical video!
@f4grx @renwillis @Gargron @stux
Thank you so much for Faecesbook. Genius.
@renwillis
I seriously can't find one viable reason to use Threads.
@Gargron @stux
@renwillis
It must be me. I don't have any need to follow celebrities. I don't even follow bands that I listen to.
And somehow, I always get the info that I need. I am basically sick of information nuggets that are distributed by social media
@Gargron @stux
@sharan I feel ya, I don't either, but I know most people do follow that stuff. I say, great! Let Threads have the corp stuff! works for me!
Threads for corps
Mastodon for humans
@renwillis "Follower counts & the active users on a platform **DO. NOT. MATTER.** if the #algorithm doesn't bless your posts." Been trying to get the comms folks at work to accept this. Without success so far...
@renwillis @Gargron @stux Maybe you have to pay to reach all your followers?
@KewlCat word is, Thread rewards clickbait posts since people are more likely to engage with it so the algorithm promotes it.
@renwillis @Gargron @stux I misread this as Enragement Experiment, and well... yes 
fediverse @renwillis @stux @Gargron well thats no surprise, i've been saying that from my experience over a decade on falsebook and when i learned that julian assange was being denied basic rights to communication in the embassy things devolved pretty spectacularly.
good to see evidence but please can everyone just /dev/null/ the #falsebook traffic now? like pleeease....? thanks in advance
I always think people that are following thousands of people are actually following nobody.
@renwillis @Gargron @stux already one year ago with way less followers on mastodon, I got actually replies, and useful ones, whereas the "followerpower" on twitter resulted in exactly 0 replies.
@renwillis could it also be an effect of the federated timeline?