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gmc

Having lots of fun using Delta Chat. I've set up two accounts on my mail server, one for myself and one for my husband. We're both surprised at how fast it is compared to more traditional centralised chat apps like Signal. It's so cool to be able to self-host this and not rely on centralised infrastructure that is outside of my control.

Now I just need to convince everyone I know it's really cool :)

@delta

#DeltaChat#Signal#SelfHosted
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Delta Chat

@gmc great and welcome :) did you try out the v86 app in a chat yet? It allows to run 32bit iso images, and if you configure eth0 on multiple devices the chat members will have an end-to-end encrypted private lan (using #webxdc realtime channels). Telnet/netcat/ping etc works. This virtual Ethernet even degrades in performance if too many devices do traffic :) tip: try it better on a desktop not mobile (although should also work)

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Maki

@delta @gmc Do you have an article about this on your site somewhere? I'm not quite sure I grok what you mean.

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Delta Chat

@RandamuMaki @gmc no bigger write up, but if you have a desktop:

Go to message input, attach-app and select "v86 emu" app and start it.

Inside v86 app "Choose file", select an iso (download for example dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/) and hit "Start" button. Login as "Root", no password.

app-selector in Delta Chat with "v86emu" highlighted. also an input field is visible where the "attach" icon is next to it.
message bubble with webxdc app "v86Emu" and a big blue "START" button.
v86 emu running alpine-linux 32 bit with typical boot-messages ending in: localhost login: root Welcome to Alpine! ... localhost # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 localhost #
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Maki

@delta @gmc Weirdly enough that seems to be missing from the .deb version or I'm just ignorant. XD It's fine. It's enough to know it exists for some. :)

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Maki

@delta @gmc That one broke on Debian 12.9 (Bookworm). I can't quite figure out why.

2025-03-14T16:24:39.241Z main/index INFO "" "Deltachat Version 1.54.2 v1.54.2 1741030462627" 2025-03-14T16:24:39.368Z main/index INFO "" "cwd /home/%USER%/.config/DeltaChat/accounts" 2025-03-14T16:24:39.382Z main/ipc CRITICAL "\nOi (file:///opt/DeltaChat/resources/app.asar/bundle_out/index.js:129:5376),\nasync sc (file:///opt/DeltaChat/resources/app.asar/bundle_out/index.js:139:208)" "Fatal: The DeltaChat Module couldn't be loaded. Please check if all dependencies for deltachat-core are installed!" {"stack":"Error: spawn ENOTDIR\n at ChildProcess.spawn (node:internal/child_process:420:11)\n at spawn (node:child_process:777:9)\n at startDeltaChat (file:///opt/DeltaChat/resources/app.asar/node_modules/@deltachat/stdio-rpc-server/index.js:73:18)\n at async Ei (file:///opt/DeltaChat/resources/app.asar/bundle_out/index.js:129:975)\n at async wt.init (file:///opt/DeltaChat/resources/app.asar/bundle_out/index.js:129:3180)\n at async Oi (file:///opt/DeltaChat/resources/app.asar/bundle_out/index.js:129:5348)\n at async sc (file:///opt/DeltaChat/resources/app.asar/bundle_out/index.js:139:208)","message":"spawn ENOTDIR","errno":-20,"code":"ENOTDIR","syscall":"spawn"}
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treefit

@RandamuMaki @delta what cpu architecture do you have?
does the file at `resources/app.asar.unpacked/node_modules/@deltachat/stdio-rpc-server-linux-<your architecture>/deltachat-rpc-server` exist?

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Maki

@treefit @delta I'm using the flatpak right now on amd64.

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treefit

@RandamuMaki @delta great that this works, though @liaizon opened an issue on the desktop repo with your report and I would like to help getting it solved/closed.

Could you try to download and run github.com/chatmail/core/relea ? that't the dc core binary that desktop failed to load/find in your screenshot.

If it doesn't work it would be interesting to know any clues to why and wether the newest core from github.com/chatmail/core/relea still has the problem.

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treefit

@RandamuMaki @delta @liaizon

I'd appreciate your help in this as @rtn wasn't able to reproduce the issue.

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Maki

@treefit @delta @liaizon @rtn Most likely because they already have the server installed, I would imagine? Edit: I was obviously wrong on this assumption as the server component is included in the deb.

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treefit

@RandamuMaki @delta @liaizon @rtn the rpc server is not a speperate package, but just a file included in the dc-desktop Debian package, that is for some reason not found on your system.

AFAIK @rtn started with a fresh Debian VM.

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Maki

@treefit @delta @liaizon @rtn You are correct, I just used gdebi-gtk to see whether the deb contained it and ls -l to see whether the permissions are okay.

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Maki

@treefit @delta @liaizon @rtn Trying to just run the deltachat-rpc-server from that folder gives `ERROR deltachat_rpc_server: Fatal error: failed to create folder: Permission denied (os error 13).` Any debug I could run from terminal to give you output to work with?

Maki

@treefit @delta @liaizon @rtn Just running the DeltaChat exec from the opt folder shows it's trying to create ~/.config/DeltaChat/accounts but is somehow unable to. The ./.config/DeltaChat folder has a hash-stringed folder in it and an accounts_old among with some other files. Permissions for the main folder is drwx------, which is true for a couple of the other folders there as well.

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