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I'm glad to see so many others enjoying this too, but I'm gonna have to mute the conversation and just check back periodically. I'm sure y'all understand!
@MaryAustinBooks As an old, CIS, white male, I’d rather trust the LBTQ+ community than any form of organised religion. I’ve seen too much harm done over the decades in the name of religion, both generally and personally.
@jaycee
I'm a churchgoing Episcopalian and 100% feel safer in an LGBT crowd than a bunch of red hats, no question. Even though I'm "MAGA passing," (white, cis het Christian, from a red state) no woman should feel safe around a movement that worships a rapist who constantly spews out every kind of hate.
@MaryAustinBooks I was christened Roman Catholic, my late father had ‘strong words’ with the local priest, so he brought us up in the Methodist church. I’ve NEVER met a Christian clergy, of any denomination, that I’d trust, I’ve met many over the years. Duplicitous scum in my humble opinion. Others have different experiences. I have no fear of death, I see it as an essential part of life.
@MaryAustinBooks @jaycee It’s not all of them but more than enough to make your skin creep. As a youngster, my skin would crawl when certain ppl shook my hand and frequently enough that I noticed a pattern of this response to several ‘charismatic xtians.’
@tend2wobble @MaryAustinBooks Indeed. I only speak from personal experience.
@jaycee @tend2wobble @MaryAustinBooks
I’d tend to trust Episcopal ordained clergy before other denominations. Was an atheist at a diocese HS.
@MaryAustinBooks @tend2wobble @stevewfolds We have different life experiences. That’s ok.
@tend2wobble @jaycee The one silver lining for me in this giant nightmare is how right I was, even as a child, about everybody I ever met. I grew up in a now MAGAfied rural area of the southern US and later was included in some now-1%er MAGA circles and some things just always felt so wrong and disturbing. Of course I was gaslit that everything is fine and I was the problem for not feelng comfortable, because white people can do no wrong.
God, at least everything makes sense now.
@MaryAustinBooks Why “friends” and not “former friends”?
@Twotired I imagine they are "former." Those people don't enjoy being shown their hypocrisy. At a minimum they distance themselves from you, so it could be she's just using the term "friend" very loosely. But of course I don't know, that's her life.
@MaryAustinBooks What is sin and what is belief depends on your moral view. So technically both sayings are the same.
@MaryAustinBooks
Stealing this one for sure
Seems like a standard Southern put down: notionally polite, as memorable as a panting hound dog on your lap, vicious as a hungry barn owl.
@MaryAustinBooks maybe "hate the Bieber, love the Belieber" works but, yeah, all the others are disingenuous
@PizzaDemon
I hadn't heard that one. 
@MaryAustinBooks ::arrow thunks as it hits bulls-eye on target::
@MaryAustinBooks This is a 1920ties version of that, it was handed out by ggrrristians in bars. *without irony*
And an example of how Southpaws are treated.
Can't believe how automatically they demand to get away with this kind of sh*te anno '25. What is happening in the USA today is much, much worse but this has been going on for centuries and is still propagated.
So no, no coincidence here, it's classic religiot boorishness *and* uncut nazi propaganda.
@MaryAustinBooks "Hate the Belief, Love the Believer". Kicking myself I never thought of that. Love it.
@MaryAustinBooks I don't know ... if I wouldn't invite someone to my party and be thrilled they came (or visa versa if I'm invited ...), how is that love?
@MaryAustinBooks this is great.
@MaryAustinBooks ..and all these "christians" making judgements about "sin" are forgetting that their god told them that judging itself is a sin as he reserves that task for his non-existent self.
"judge not, lest YE be judged"
More hypocrisy from the "saved". 