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A reminder that Greenland is part of the Overseas Countries and Territories (OCT) of the EU and Greenlandic citizens are EU citizens.

Any move by Trump and the US to invade and annex Greenland would be a declaration of war with the EU and a gross violation of its 1951 treaty to protect Greenland from attack. (Though not ironic as the mafia never protects you from itself.) Furthermore, an attack on a NATO member would be deemed an attack on all other NATO members (Art 5) and a violation of the treaty (Art 8).

If neither EU nor NATO members did anything to protect Greenland/Denmark against the US’s overwhelming military might (as is likely) – and, remember, US troops are already in Greenland and in other EU countries also – it would signal that no EU or NATO state is safe should a stronger military decide to invade.

If anything, if the EU hasn’t understood it yet, it must start treating the US not as an ally but as a threat. Trump isn’t a clown. He’s the fascist leader of the country with – in the words of Kamala Harris – the world’s most lethal military.

We must shore up our defenses because it is becoming impossible to ignore that the EU is caught between two hostile forces: a fascist US on the one side and a fascist Russia on the other, neither of which have two shits to give about international law (that was a quaint concept while it lasted, wasn’t it?)

Either we learn to defend ourselves in the EU or we become a vassal state of Gilead. And, as much as I oppose militaries – in a world in which they very much exist – I’d much rather it wasn’t the latter.

salon.com/2025/01/24/horrendou

Salon.com · "Horrendous": Trump call with Denmark PM over Greenland deal left Danes in "crisis mode"Donald Trump spoke with the prime minister of Denmark about acquiring Greenland. It did not go well.
#USA#fascism#EU

@aral I’m an U.S citizen living in NY….at this point I think it’s time for the E.U, and China to hit us with heavy sanctions and trade embargos.

You all may not understand how quickly this country/Trump’s admin is going to collapse the second the price of goods rise, or we walk into an empty grocery store

@wonkothesane @aral The latter could(/will?) even happen before anything else - when the ICE follows the plans re undocumented people.
Farmers won't be able to deliver.
And in addition bc all planned cuts the meat production will face the same.

So either way the US is fucked (by oligarchs that is) and with the US citizens the allies.
So the sooner you'll "sort this out" the better for everybody.

Good luck 🤞

Michael Santaly

@grootinside @aral This is true, but the point I wanted to make is that the E.U doesn’t need to worrry about our military when they can simple blow on our economy and knock it over

@wonkothesane @aral In my pov nobody(?) seem to realise:
With that group of oligarchs the orange guy is backed by the most powerful companies of the planet. They can switch of satellites (communication), restrict internetfunctions (cloudservices...) restrict trades (Amazon...) and functions in OS (MS, Apple...)... Not to forget, global institutions like ICANN, UN... are based in US.
With such uninhibited egos EVERYTHING is possible, proven every day.
Btw. #panamacanal means tradecontrol.

@grootinside @wonkothesane @aral Which is why the EU and other nations should have already switched to FOSS and decentralized software and OSes, mesh networks, community gardens and local artisans for self-sufficient neighborhoods and more. America is a symptom of the root cause.

@grootinside @wonkothesane @aral True, but don't forget it will affect their income as well. For instance can't imagine Microsoft would see everyone flee to Linux, or Amazon loosing business. The latter would probably happily be taken over by e.g. AliExpress. International comms might be an issue but Europe has own satellites.

@grootinside

There are European alternatives to all the US companies you mention. It's just a matter of political will and industrial policy (meaning: spending euros on European solutions and providers).

@wonkothesane @aral

@grootinside

Don't misunderstand me: it would be insanely painful and costly. But the EU could pull it off.

@wonkothesane @aral

@ParadeGrotesque @wonkothesane @aral Yes, the EU *could*!
Unfortunately there is few to no political will to see until today. 😒
Instead right wing partys and policies are on the rise paving the way to brake up the EU, ready to align with the #Trumppack 😡 or even #PutinIsaWarCriminal
#Meloni #Orban #AFD ...

@grootinside

You are correct. We can either be the little poodles of somebody else, or throw Meloni and Orban out, lock the obvious collaborators (Le Pen, AFD) behind bars, and go our own way.

I suspect there is a majority of people in the EU who want nothing to do with either Trump or Putin. But I may be mistaken.

As the ancient Chinese curse says: "May you live through interesting times". And there we are.

@wonkothesane @aral

@ParadeGrotesque @grootinside @wonkothesane @aral nodds in agreement

  • I'm pretty shure not only that the 8th floor of Stammheim Prison is vacant, but that there's enough capacity for every #NSAfD member in the prison system!

@kkarhan @ParadeGrotesque @wonkothesane @aral And yet
there is STILL a lack of political will to ban the party. 😡

@kkarhan @ParadeGrotesque @wonkothesane @aral
Our german parliament only needs to submit an application to our Federal Constitutional Court to examine a ban on the AFD party. This could've been done afaik even by only the chancelor. Yet, to many of the members of the Bundestag are hesitating. ("It could go wrong"🙄 ) despite all evidence.
And it's NOT up to them to decide about a ban, ONLY to submit the application.

@grootinside @ParadeGrotesque @wonkothesane @aral precisely that is the problem.

  • It's neither citizens nor law enforcement investigators who can get that case started before said court!

Unlike with Organized Crime gangs...