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Btw, didn't Bsky got an large investment of some sketchy cryptocurrency company?

Do these investors needs their money back perhaps 🤔

@stux I wondered the same thing a month or so ago. At some point, those Crypto bro investors are gonna want their cash back.

@stux To be fair, capital investors want returns. So the moment a company takes capital, they have to use it to generate revenue.

In the US (and likely elsewhere), this is a legal requirement, referred to as fiduciary duty.

So yeah, when I saw cryptobros throwing money at it, I basically assumed the clock started on monetization coming to bsky.

Now, if they can do it tastefully, then fine. But I suspect taste will have no bearing on their greed.

@stux Somebody has to pay for all those biscuits that come out of the oven. Relying on the appreciation and kindness of their userbase isn't something they can earn enough butter and jam for the biscuit money off of.

@stux it's weird 'cuz clearly the ones who bought the birdsite don't. lol

how's this different to Mastodon instances, or even clients like Ivory asking for money?

@jglypt.net@bsky.brid.gy Simple!

There's no difference between people who donate and not 😉

Not everyone can pay for social media, and logical so creating limits is just wrong

For Mastodon there are a dozen clients that are complelty free like the "official" ones

There are plenty apps made by 3rd party devs

Yeah true, but Bluesky are mainly doing this to avoid needing to go to Ads. While it's "decentralised", it's a diff approach to decentralisation than Mastodon/nostr. It's more like a Web2.0 app, just locked-open, rather than being completely spread out. Pros and cons to both, but Mastodon will

always have the easier route for monetisation, as it's all cut between individual instances, and Bluesky is just trying to stay sustainable so it can stay up and pay their staff.

but obviously if this goes shitty in future, you'll be able to migrate your account and someone else could setup another "Bluesky" - funded differently (or not at all, if by a bigger corp. or something)

@stux Yes they did. Seems likely they’ll want a return. In big picture terms, it really wasn’t that large an amount invested.

I’m not smart like them, but I’d take the lesson from EM that if you prefer polemics and elevation of hateful voices, your investment’s value plunges.

So maybe ads are coming. Bad ones, I’ll leave. So maybe moderation skews right and cruel. I’ll leave.

Right now, it’s different in complementary ways to here, so I’m at both places. And I’ll never go back to X.

@stux

I think cryptobro pipe dreams have been behind the x/Bluesky splinter all along.

Zuck too would a social platform user base with a crypto wallet that allows impulse purchasing inside the platform, and allows backside embezzling with the fantasy micro funds held in escrow.

What do you think PayPal was?

@stux The real Mastodon Blue is donating to your server dev/instance host/app dev. (something like KDE does kde.org/bluefriday/)
The benefit is you get to DM them feature requests and get them implemented either immediately or never.

EDIT: reworded

KDE CommunityBlue Friday is hereJust kidding! All KDE stuff will always be free. Instead of spending all your hard-earned money on dodgy Black Friday bargains, why not donate to KDE? We bring you the best every day of the year!

@stux I wonder if there is a standard way of linking bluesky accounts to fedi accounts? Then it makes sense for large accounts to use bsky at the moment and move most of your followers with you to a sustainable place once enshittification reaches your personal red line

@wiesodennblos @stux

Just use Friendica. There is the bridge to bsky embedded... you don't need an extra service, to connect to bluesky from fediverse.

In fefiverse you are "verified" if you oor your company host a fediservice as subdomain on your well-known domain.

Friendica:
- no character Limit
- formatted text
- inline-images (unlimitted count on every post and comment)
- calendar
- groups

@jakob das klingt erstmal ganz gut, aber hängt davon ab, dass bluesky das mitmacht, oder? Einige enshittification steps später ist zu erwarten, dass bluesky diese Möglichkeit einschränkt. Ich hoffe, dass es dann noch eine Möglichkeit gibt, automatisch zusammengehörige fedi/bluesky Accounts zu erkennen. Wenn beide mit der gleichen domain verifiziert sind ist das kein Problem, aber nicht jeder hat eine eigene domain.

@wiesodennblos

Über die Enshitification kommerzieller Dienste mag ich nicht philosophieren.

Friendica hat die connection eingebaut. Braucht keinen zussäzlichen Dienst für die Bridge.

Ich habs nicht aktiv auf meiner Instanz, weil ich nicht auf Bluesky vertreten sein möchte.

@wiesodennblos

Screenshot vom Bluesky-Plugin auf Friendica:

Das Fedivers-Handle ist also auch das Bluesky-Handle.

@stux I'm very happy with my Unverified Mastodon account 😅

@keremgo :verified: there we gooooo

that was easy :blobcatgiggle:

@stux thank you so much! Now I'm somebody 😂 👍

@stux Post/Account analytics would be nice, tho.