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@stux
Sorry, I don't really remember. Weren't you against federation with threads?

@latsss We let our users decide for themselves :ablobwink: An user-level instance block is super easy and quick if one wants to

@stux @latsss

Technical question : Do a personal block protect my data ?

I remember threads users conditions saying something like "as long as we are able to access your data we will consider them ours".

Is a personal block enough ?

@nartagnan @stux @latsss if you put your information publicly onto the internet, anyone with access to the public internet can access, save, manipulate, and reproduce your data at will

If someone from Threads follows you, your private/followers-only posts will also be sent to the Threads server to be shown to your Threads follower, and so Meta can access that data too

@chromaticliteralist @nartagnan @latsss But this goes with all posts 😉

Keep in mind that Mastodon is a public social network and when posting in the "public" status your post will be "broadcasted" onto the web via ActivityPub for example, like shouting it thorugh a megaphone :blobcatgiggle:

If you want your posts protected, post in followers-only and set the account to approve followers :cat_hug_triangle:

@nartagnan @chromaticliteralist @latsss Yes it does 😉 What i said goes for the whole "public social network" concept

Ofc blocking helps but if one wants to play it 100% safe be sure to look further in how the Fedi works is what i mean

@nartagnan @stux @latsss if your user account blocks the threads domain, no one there can follow you and so your private/followers only posts will not be shared to Meta’s instance

Regardless of your block strategy, Public posts are always accessible to anyone in the web for any purpose they please (including Meta).

Unlisted posts can also be scraped out from the APub network, regardless of block strategy, which an industrial player like Meta would do.

@chromaticliteralist @stux @latsss

Sorry, that was not what I wanted to know.
I know the whole public things.

My question is :
- blocking at a user level do the same (for my account) than a defederation ?
- if, on a 2-users instance, both decide to block tread, is it the same than a defed ?
- concerning Threads conditions too ? Do they treat user-block the same way than a full defed ?

@nartagnan @stux @latsss you’re going to need to look at the docs if you want to split hairs this far into the weeds.

Defederation is the more powerful tool. Metadata is still passed around otherwise.

Threads doesn’t “treat” blocks or defeds at all. The protocol does. Threads doesn’t get a say.

@chromaticliteralist @stux @latsss

Of course they scrap. But is it the same amount of scrapping ?

And considering where they have a say:
If they say "we will consider opt-out of consent if you defederate, but not if you only user-block", they have a say.

I don't have money to go to court for that.

@nartagnan @stux @latsss

A personal block will stop that user from seeing your data if they are logged in, if they're on the same account you blocked, and *if* their instance is operating under regular Fediverse parameters, a gentlebeings' handshake as t'were.

I hold no hope that Threads will be at all structured as to enforce user-centric moderation on the larger Fediverse.

@stux @latsss oml this is the best attitude to have :blobfoxheartcute:
finally someone who knows not to force their personal choice onto an instance's worth of people

@HistoPol @stux @latsss

I saw this late, but yes, if you block that domain, that only blocks and hides accounts and posts from there.

You'll still be able to see replies from users elsewhere made in response to posts on threads, and you'll also still see when someone else mentions threads users.

@Qazm
Thanks.

"You'll still be able to see replies from users elsewhere made in response to posts on threads, and you'll also still see when someone else mentions threads users."

That sounds rather reasonable.
So it would be rather like a discussion here where the setting is "followers only," so everyone will only see posts by people (or bots 😉) whom they follow, correct?
(Which still puts me off at times, having comments apparently coming out of thin air, which is why I...

@stux @latsss

@Qazm @stux @latsss

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...often put a link of the post I'm replying to so as not to confuse my followers as much.

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@stux booooo! luckily we have a block on him here. it's why @piggo is an epic admin if comes to fediverse.

@patricus @piggo We leave it as a personal choice for people on our instances and don't force it on them 😉

@stux @piggo well, I prefer my hoster to block the evil IP's server-side + if someone doesn't like, they can move onto other instance.
@patricus @stux this is really more of a case of this being primarily my personal server so I just blocked things I super-don't-like server-side, lol
@piggo @stux and we don't like the same stuff so.