@RustedComputing Chemical exposure, development quirks and other things may play a role. Intersex and other things are real things. And some are genetic quirks, too. Some people don't biologically fit neatly into the binary, even without any other thing. And those women who have a mutation which suppress male development even though they are biologically XY...
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Which is basically why the IOC gave up on trying to biochemically determinate the gender of athletes in the 1970s.
Yes there biologically 2 genders. And these last bit of odd outliers. Some even show outward oddities like both sets of genitalia, many are only odd on the genetic level while the outward expression is normal.
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Now if try use the biological sex/gender for anything you must decide how to deal with these outliers.
Now you can go with the phenotype, but then you have to inspect the athletes naked (the IOC played with this, but this is not universally culturally acceptable solution), because as we said the body chemistry can be misleading.
And you are still left with the cases of hermaphroditic phenotype expressions.
So the pragmatic solution is the X sex.
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@knittingknots2
Now if try use the biological sex/gender for anything you must decide how to deal with these outliers.
Now you can go with the phenotype, but then you have to inspect the athletes naked (the IOC played with this, but this is not universally culturally acceptable solution), because as we said the body chemistry can be misleading.
And you are still left with the cases of hermaphroditic phenotype expressions.
So the pragmatic solution is the X sex.
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Trump has form for inspecting in changing rooms.