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JuneSim63

Today's Guardian briefing on

* European cruise ships alone emitted more sulphurous oxides than 1bn cars in 2022, creating huge pollution in cities where they dock.

* Cruise ship CO2 emissions in Europe rose by 17% between 2017 & 2022, reaching the equivalent of 50,000 flights between Paris & New York.

* A single ship can emit as much diesel exhaust as 34,400 idling lorries to power operations while docked.

theguardian.com/world/article/

The Guardian · Monday briefing: What can be done to offset the environmental cost of cruise ships?By Archie Bland

@junesim63 cruise ships are not cars or trucks. Cruise ships are hotels. Of course the emit much more.
You have to compared them with Hotel + travelling.
Second, the sulfur Emission is more or less solved in europe.

Disclaimer: never did a cruise and never wont.

@N3r0 @junesim63 cruise ships are ships, and emit massive amounts of pollution. There’s really no other comparison to be made here.

@knightlie @junesim63 no good Argument.
So we should fly goods around instead of using ships?

@junesim63 unfortunately, orcas aren't strong enough to sink them. We therefore need to sink them ourselves.

@jbiserkov @junesim63
Yeah... na.

When humans start to breed super animals, you can be guaranteed that it'll go pear shaped.

No offence to pears.

@junesim63 why don’t they make them electric? They *need* a lot of weight below the water line in order to stay balanced, so why not make the ballast serve double duty by filling the ballast with a massive pile of rechargeable batteries? Unlike planes, weight is not a huge issue.

Easy way to eliminate the pollution and get a lot of great PR.

@SimonCHulse @junesim63
Those materials for those batteries are better used for things that actually need batteries. Cruise ships should have a nuclear reactor ;-)

@junesim63 My sister worked on one for a few years. There is some truth behind the joke “beware when you start getting more ice in your drink, they need to make room in the freezer for a body”.

@junesim63 we should just ban the effing things. They are a complete scourge. And it’s getting worse, with new fragile destinations being opened up - Svalbard, Antarctica etc etc. Some populous destinations eg Venice, Barcelona, Majorca are coming to completely hate cruise ships & its easy to see why.

@junesim63 And that is what the German state subsidises. It's a shame.

@junesim63@mstdn.social
so what you're saying is people on cruises emit sulphurous gasses.

Actually that isn't what your saying, but my gut tells me Satan had something to do with them being there.

@junesim63
Things aren’t great: but still should be careful how we move to fix them.

As in: we could cause an unintended disaster.

Removing the pollution (artificial clouds) looks like it is going to raise global temperatures based on the data we have from 2020-2021 during the pandemic (when all the cruise ships stopped).

I’m for less pollution: but we’ve put ourselves in a precarious scenario, where (only) stopping now is not enough.

@junesim63 I can't understand why ports don't sell electricity and require cruise ships to shut off their engines when docked. Docking regulations should mandate that ships must connect to the port's electrical grid for power, except during docking or departure. This would not only reduce emissions and noise but also provide the port and city with an additional revenue stream to offset the impact of tourism.