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As a right winger, I support this approach. Investing into people for a certain amount of time (so they can start working, thus paying taxes and contributing to the economy) will eventually pay off.

@theotherverion @rimu I'll be sure to tell my 90-year-old mom (who's probably got at least 8 years left), to hurry up and get off her ass.

The knot in the right-wing angle is the belief that the church, the family, or other philanthropy will meet the perpetual need. The harsh reality is that there are and always will be people who don't and won't ever have what it takes to provide "enough value," as defined by people with money, to a free market.

I have not told pensions should be removed.

@theotherverion My mom wouldn't have a pension. She was effectively a clergyman's wife full time, who has and is still spending spent quite a bit of time caring for my disabled brother, who hasn't ever been properly "gainfully employed" despite desperate efforts that have now come out in the wash as traumatic, not just to my brother.

The model works for babies, too. The question is: who pays (etc.) the care workers?

The main issue I see is the fact your brother is not employed. I don’t think it is your fault but that would ease up your situation a lot.

Janis

@theotherverion Right, but despite decades of failed and emotionally traumatic attempts at getting him employed, and my mother never having been employed outside the home, now that they're both past retirement age, who's responsible to absorb the cost of their utilities, rent, food, and medical care? Or do we let them rot out in a grassy field somewhere?

I'm not proposing a solution, I'm indicating that employment is frequently not one.