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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@my_millennium" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>my_millennium</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@dbrgn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dbrgn</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> Ist trotzdem <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>) und damit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a> und untauglich, weil gegen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KeckhoffsPrinzip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KeckhoffsPrinzip</span></a> und grundlegende <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> verstoßend!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> genau das ist der Falsche Ansatz, da Threat Models sich ständig verschieben und nicht ausgegangen werden kann, dass es dabei bleibt.</p><ul><li>Das technisch sicherstmögliche auf verbreiteter Hardware &amp; Systemen ist und bleibt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> über <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, idealerweise an einen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>, weil damit echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> machbar ist!</li></ul><p>Keine*r deloyed drölfzig Messenger oder migriert bedarfsweise User*innen umher.</p><ul><li>Anders als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|e &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|e Systeme (egal ob <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, etc.) ist XMPP+OMEMO an sich sicher!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://swiss.social/@silvan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>silvan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@nakal" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nakal</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a> hat dieselben Probleme wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>:</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a></li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a></li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a></li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sicherheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sicherheit</span></a>? <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em></li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113938762230637543" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1139387</span><span class="invisible">62230637543</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@zeank" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zeank</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@MastoDenunzianten" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>MastoDenunzianten</span></a></span> Auch sind all.dies <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Merting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Merting</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Versprechen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Versprechen</span></a> oder auch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/L%C3%BCgen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lügen</span></a>, denn woher soll mensch verifizieren können, dass das was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threeema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threeema</span></a> behauptet auch stimmt?</p><ul><li>Die werden mich das ja nicht persönlich an deren Servern abchecken lassen.</li></ul><p>Bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> (z.B. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a>) &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME (z.B <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a>) kann ich im Zweifelsfalle <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> mit nem <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RaspberryPi</span></a> im Kleiderschrank machen.</p><ul><li>Egal ob <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@threemaapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>threemaapp</span></a></span> , <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> , <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@simplex" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>simplex</span></a></span> , <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@WhatsApp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>WhatsApp</span></a></span> oder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pwnagotchi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pwnagotchi</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PwnMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PwnMail</span></a> <a href="https://pwnagotchi.ai/usage/#pwnmail" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">ja, das gibts auch</a> gibt's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|e <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Server" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Server</span></a> und damit zentrale Angriffspunkte.</li></ul><p>Angriffe auf dezentrale &amp; offene, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a>-Standards funktionieren nicht skalierbar!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@dbrgn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dbrgn</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sueden.social/@bastibayer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bastibayer</span></a></span> es ist ein <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>"</em> - Modell weil deren <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Server" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Server</span></a> sind <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a> und damit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SinglePointOfFailure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SinglePointOfFailure</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Anders als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> wo es zwar ärgerlich ist wenn <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> oder <code>jabber.ccc.de</code> down sind, aber dies nicht die generelle Verfügbarkeit jener Lösung sicherstellt.</li></ul><p>Ich betrachte etwas nur als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/offen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>offen</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sicher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sicher</span></a> wenn es komplett <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dezentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dezentralisiert</span></a> und ohne Möglichkeit der externen Angriffe gibt.</p><ul><li>Ein Standard muss auch gemeingefährliche wie inkompetente und feindliche Betreiber woe Enteickler überstehen können!</li></ul><p>Zumal es mangels <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ReproduzierbarerBuilds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReproduzierbarerBuilds</span></a> nicht möglich ist zu verifizieren ob der veröffentlichte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Quellcode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Quellcode</span></a> von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a> das ist was die per <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AppStore</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GooglePlay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GooglePlay</span></a> verteilen.</p><ul><li>Wenn Threema in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Russland</span></a>, <em>"V.R." China</em>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KSA</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Indien" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Indien</span></a> nicht verboten ist, haben die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backdoors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Backdoors</span></a> integriert!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@pixelcode" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>pixelcode</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@frumble" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frumble</span></a></span> IMHO ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSky</span></a> auch nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a> für Leute mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StockholmSyndrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StockholmSyndrom</span></a>... </p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> kommt da auch, genauso wie bei allen anderen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|en <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - <em>"Lösungen!"</em>...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@sunfish" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>sunfish</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.derstandard.at/@web" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>web</span></a></span> nein, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> ist keine Alternative, sondern auch nur ein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|er, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|er <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Messenger der genauso unter "CloudAct fällt und obendrein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PersonenbezogeneDaten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PersonenbezogeneDaten</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a>) ohne <em>"legitimen Grund"</em> sammelt, speichert und teilt.</p><ul><li>Am ende ist jeder 08/15 <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>-Client besser, denn doese erlauben <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> aller Schlüssel und damit echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenhoheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Datenhoheit</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Außerdem ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> eine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Geldverbrennung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Geldverbrennung</span></a>|s-Party die nicht langfristig überlebensfähig ist, anders als z.B. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a>, wo mensch zwar € 2 p.m. für'n Account zahlt aber dafür nen soliden Service bekommt und nicht davob abhängig ist dass <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spenden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Spenden</span></a> allein den Betrieb finanzieren!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@md" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>md</span></a></span> leoder verweigern <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> kritische Fragen zum Vorgehen seitens <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>...<br><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/112636697476321915" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1126366</span><span class="invisible">97476321915</span></a></p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Funfact" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Funfact</span></a>: Gute Messenger wie <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> setzen mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> um, und können daher keine wirksameb <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backdoors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Backdoors</span></a> umsetzen!</p><ul><li>Andrrs als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|e, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Lösungen alla <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/@leitmedium" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>leitmedium</span></a></span> ich halte das für Geschwätz seitens <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> und <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> im speziellen, weil die sich bisher <em>nirgendwo</em> zurückgezogen haben.</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> ist bestenfalls auf dem <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em>-Level von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> und wahrscheinlich ein gigantischer <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Honeypot</span></a> alla <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> weil die nicht nur ein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|er <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Messenger sind, sondern <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummern</span></a> erfassen und speichern.</li></ul><p>Ich garantiere dir dass wenn mit Beugehaft bedroht jede*r bei Signal deren User doxxed - so wie's <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220112020000/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">VPN-Anbieter taten und tun</a>.</p><ul><li>Aber das ist <a href="http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/post/084b1e1084343fc37c4e/#c-228d7ba7660c592e5a" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">nicht meine Meinung</a> sondern <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnbequemeWahrheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UnbequemeWahrheit</span></a>...</li></ul><p>Wenn Signal wirklich auf <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sicherheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sicherheit</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Privatsph%C3%A4re" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Privatsphäre</span></a> fokussiert wäre, dann hätten diese einfach nen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> - Server im <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> - Netzwerk aufgezogen und auch das gesamte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backend" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Backend</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dezentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dezentralisiert</span></a>!</p><ul><li>Wäre Signal so sicher wie diese behaupten, dann wäre der Dienst qua <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> lange verboten und das Personal in Haft!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cybre.club/@me_the_fl00f" class="u-url mention">@<span>me_the_fl00f</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@Mirabeaulacht" class="u-url mention">@<span>Mirabeaulacht</span></a></span> IMHO sollten jene Politiker*innen und Medien die sich von <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|en <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Lösungen abhänig machen in die politische &amp; sozioökonomische <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Bedeutungslosigkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Bedeutungslosigkeit</span></a> verschwinden!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@embarc" class="u-url mention">@<span>embarc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@StefanZoerner" class="u-url mention">@<span>StefanZoerner</span></a></span> ich betrachte <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Threema</span></a> auch nicht wirklich sicherer als#WhatsApp, weil genauso <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a> als <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|er <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>-Dienst ohne <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> der <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Keys" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Keys</span></a>!</p><p>Daher sind deren <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Versprechen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Versprechen</span></a> auch nur <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Werbel%C3%BCgen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Werbelügen</span></a> weil für <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Ottonormalnutzer" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Ottonormalnutzer</span></a>*innen nicht verifizierbar!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hci.social/@floe" class="u-url mention">@<span>floe</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nafo.army/@enno" class="u-url mention">@<span>enno</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> ist trotzdem <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a> = <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> und damit shice.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/111189620257970236" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mstdn.social/@kkarhan/11118962</span><span class="invisible">0257970236</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hci.social/@floe" class="u-url mention">@<span>floe</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nafo.army/@enno" class="u-url mention">@<span>enno</span></a></span> Angesichts dessen dass <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> als <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|e <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Lösung agiert vertraue ich wenen soweit wie ich auf dem rücken liegend gen Himmel pissen kann ohne nass zu werden...</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@Pabamiti" class="u-url mention">@<span>Pabamiti</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@Natanox" class="u-url mention">@<span>Natanox</span></a></span> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Threema</span></a> ist auch nur marginal besser.</p><p>ALLE Dienste die <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a> und <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVebdir" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVebdir</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> sind, sind inhärent unsicher...</p><p>Als <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Gegenbeispiel" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Gegenbeispiel</span></a> kann ich <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> und <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@linux" class="u-url mention">@<span>linux</span></a></span> nennen:</p><p>Wären beide nich <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> und <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/dezentral" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>dezentral</span></a>, man hätte den Maitainern schon vor Jahren ne Waffe an den Kopf gepresst und diese zur Abschaltung des Netzes (<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Tor</span></a>) und Integration von <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Govware</span></a> (<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Linux</span></a>) gezwungen.</p><p>Die Verunmöglichung eines Erfolgs blockierte das.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gRsgkdfYJ8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=7gRsgkdfYJ8</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@Natanox" class="u-url mention">@<span>Natanox</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@Pabamiti" class="u-url mention">@<span>Pabamiti</span></a></span> @nomain@mastodon.social <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@netzpolitik_feed" class="u-url mention">@<span>netzpolitik_feed</span></a></span> Alle <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|en <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a>/ <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>-Lösungen sind Mist.<br />Deshalb nutzt auch keiner mehr <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>AIM</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MSN" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>MSN</span></a> o. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>ICQ</span></a>!<br />Hinzu kommt, dass <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Signal</span></a> nicht nur unnötige Daten erfasst und speichert (u.a. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a>) und die <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Notification" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Notification</span></a>-<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/APIs" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>APIs</span></a> von <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Google</span></a> und <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Apple</span></a> nutzt sondern ausschließlich über deren Plattformen verteilt wird und aktiv <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Sideloading" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Sideloading</span></a> verbietet.<br />Für mich stinkt das nach <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Honeypot</span></a> alla <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>ANØM</span></a>!<br /><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operatio</span><span class="invisible">n_Trojan_Shield</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer" class="u-url mention">@<span>echo_pbreyer</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://eupolicy.social/@khaleesicodes" class="u-url mention">@<span>khaleesicodes</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://d-64.social/@erik" class="u-url mention">@<span>erik</span></a></span> </p><p>Wichtig: Alle <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|en &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|en und/oder <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Lösungen konsequent verweigern.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Chatkontrolle" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Chatkontrolle</span></a> und anderer <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Cyberfaschismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Cyberfaschismus</span></a> ist nicht durchsetzbar gegen <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>XMPP</span></a> + <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sueden.social/@n0r" class="u-url mention">@<span>n0r</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://systemli.social/@anneroth" class="u-url mention">@<span>anneroth</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wien.rocks/@ovrim" class="u-url mention">@<span>ovrim</span></a></span> <br />Weil <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a> als <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Lösung ist dies trivial und ich würde die Drei-Buchstaben - Dienste als &quot;gemeingefährlich-inkompetent&quot; bezeichnen wenn dies nicht bereits der Fall ist...</p><p>Dass dies vorallem zivile Nutzer*innen wie <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Journalist" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Journalist</span></a>*innen schadet, ist denen shiceegal.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://systemli.social/@anneroth" class="u-url mention">@<span>anneroth</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sueden.social/@n0r" class="u-url mention">@<span>n0r</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wien.rocks/@ovrim" class="u-url mention">@<span>ovrim</span></a></span></p><p>Wann lernen&#39;s die Leute endlich?</p><p>ALLE <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|en <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Dienste sind inhärent unsicher.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Versprechen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Versprechen</span></a> von <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Threema</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>ANØM</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> &amp; Co. waren, sind und bleiben reine <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Marketing" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Marketing</span></a> - <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/L%C3%BCgen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Lügen</span></a>!<br /> <a href="https://systemli.social/@anneroth/109687459354201596" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">systemli.social/@anneroth/1096</span><span class="invisible">87459354201596</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer" class="u-url mention">@<span>echo_pbreyer</span></a></span> Wichtig ist: Nicht allein auf das <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/System" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>System</span></a> vertrauen sondern systematisch die <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Nichtdurchsetzbarkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Nichtdurchsetzbarkeit</span></a> von <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Cyberfaschismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Cyberfaschismus</span></a> erarbeiten und sich konsequent <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|er <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - &quot;<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/L%C3%B6sungen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Lösungen</span></a>&quot; und &quot;<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Plattformen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Plattformen</span></a>&quot; verweigern.</p><p>Bspw. statt <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/beA" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>beA</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DeMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DeMail</span></a> konsequent <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>eMail</span></a> mit <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GPG" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>GPG</span></a>/MIME nutzen!</p>