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Alex<p>I'm going to stop re-tooting about the <a href="https://mastodon.org.uk/tags/xz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xz</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.org.uk/tags/backdoor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>backdoor</span></a> as I'm pretty sure everyone is aware now. I'm sure there will be further analysis and recommendations in the following days and hopefully concrete action other <a href="https://mastodon.org.uk/tags/upstreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>upstreams</span></a> can take to tighten up their processes.</p><p>Interesting sidenote: I had to actively go looking on <a href="https://mastodon.org.uk/tags/twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>twitter</span></a> to find any reporting on this. I got everything I needed to know from <a href="https://mastodon.org.uk/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.org.uk/tags/lemmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lemmy</span></a>.</p>
David Runge<p>Some <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/corporate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>corporate</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>python</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/upstreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>upstreams</span></a> are more cursed than others.</p><p>We experience packager drain on <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/molecule" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>molecule</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/ansible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ansible</span></a> related packages, as upstream knowingly breaks compatibility from time to time and doesn't guard or test against it properly. Instead afterwards suggests to "just pin it" 🤡 (which does not work after the fact in system packaging).</p><p>Soon they will have their wish fulfilled when no one wants to touch that stuff for packaging anymore...</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/ArchLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ArchLinux</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/packagerlife" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>packagerlife</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.afront.org/@kwf" class="u-url mention">@<span>kwf</span></a></span> that reminds me of news stories that <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DTAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DTAG</span></a> abusing <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Cogent" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Cogent</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Level3" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Level3</span></a> as <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Upstreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Upstreams</span></a> and refusing to upgrade the bandwiths, causing <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PacketLoss" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>PacketLoss</span></a> and instable connectivity out of their <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ego" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>ego</span></a> not wanting to peer at <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DECIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DECIX</span></a> and have properly sized ports.</p><p>This even went into lawsuit filings, but propably got pulled due to arbitration.</p><p>After all, I remember colleagues saying one should not exceed 30-50% of the network capacity prior to upgrading just to have enough breathing room.</p>