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Woger the Shrubber<p>A “thought” experiment for your LLMs:<br>Let’s talk about humanoid species a bit. Can a species survive on the “reality is arbitrary” prime directive?<br><a href="https://social.bitwig.community/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a><br><a href="https://social.bitwig.community/tags/extinctClass" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>extinctClass</span></a><br><a href="https://social.bitwig.community/tags/doublethinkClass" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>doublethinkClass</span></a></p>
Different Than<p>TL;DR: I think a specific kind of "backward" reasoning, common in conservative religious traditions in the US, is one of the things driving the current crisis.</p><p>Long version:.......</p><p>First, my experience is with the LDS church, which has spent a few decades trying to be Evangelical enough to be buddies with the actual Evangelicals, and my experiences so far suggest that LDS church members have a lot in common with Evangelical Christians at this point in time, in regards to the issues in this <a href="https://xkcd.com/37/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">long-ass</a> post.</p><p>I was <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/LDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LDS</span></a> (i.e., <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mormon</span></a>) for the first <em>mumblenumbermumble</em> decades of my life. I was taught--expicitly, not by the also-ubiquitous methods of "read-between-the-lines", "pay attention to consequences instead of words," etc.--that the right and proper way to <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/reason" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reason</span></a> about all things religious was thus:</p><ol><li>Find out what is true</li><li>Use all resources after that to support, justify, explain, and believe that truth</li></ol><p>The first point is a problem, of course, because it comes <em>before</em> any external evidence. There is <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/evidence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>evidence</span></a> of a kind, but it is 100% subjective: the results of your <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/spiritual" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>spiritual</span></a> promptings or feelings or inspiration. You get these by praying really hard, thinking the right thoughts, etc. Thinking "negative" thoughts (often any kind of skepticism or doubt is included in this category) will drive the Holy Spirit away and he won't be able to tell you how true all the stuff is. </p><p>There are many people--and I truly believe they are almost all sincere and well-meaning--to help you navigate this difficult process. This means to help you come to the <em>right</em> conclusions (i.e., that Jesus is God and died for our sins, that Joseph Smith was His prophet, that the LDS church is the only true <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/church" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>church</span></a> etc.). Coming to the "wrong" conclusions means you aren't doing it right, hard enough, humbly enough, etc. so you will keep at it, encouraged by family, friends, and leaders, until you get the "right" answer.</p><p>See, you make up your mind about the truth of things <em>before</em> acquiring any outside <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/evidence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>evidence</span></a>. I was a full-time missionary in Mexico for two years; I am aware that of course evidence does get used, but not the way a scientist or other evidence-informed person would use it. We used scriptures, <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/logic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>logic</span></a>, personal stories, empirical data, etc. as merely one of many possible tools to bring another soul to Christ. LDS doctrine is clear on this (where its notably unclear on a huge range of other things): belief/#faith/testimony does <em>not</em> come from empirical evidence. It comes from the Holy Spirit, and only if you ask just right. </p><p>Empirical evidence, clear reasoning, etc. are nice but they're just a garnish; they're only condiments. The main meal is promptings (i.e., feelings) from the Holy Spirit. That is where true knowledge comes from. All other <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/knowledge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>knowledge</span></a> is inferior and subordinate. All of it. If the Holy Spirit tells you the moon is cheese, then by golly you now have a cheesemoon. More disturbingly, if the Holy Ghost tells you to kill your neighbors, you should presumably do that. This kind of "prepare for the worst" thinking is a lot more common in conservative Christian groups than I think some people realize.</p><p>Anyway, you get these promptings. They're probably not because you're a sleep-deprived, angsty, sincere teenager who has been bathed and baked in this culture your entire life and has no concept of any outcome other than this. You get the promptings. Now you <strong>know</strong>. You know that Jesus is your Savior, that Joseph Smith was his prophet, that the LDS Church is the only true and living church on the face of the etc. etc.</p><p>You don't believe; you <em>know</em>. </p><p>So the next step is... nothing specific, really. You're done learning. That step is over. As we were reminded repeatedly as young missionaries: your job is to teach others, not to be taught by them. You go through the rest of your life with this knowledge, and you share it whenever you can. Of course, some events and facts and speech might make you doubt your hard-won knowledge. What to do?</p><p>You put the knowledge first and make the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/facts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>facts</span></a> fit it. You arrange the facts you see or read or whatever so that they fit this knowledge you acquired on your knees late at night with tears in your eyes, or in Sacrament Meeting the morning after a drama-filled youth conference. If you can't make the facts fit your knowledge, you reject the facts.</p><p>You seriously reject facts, and pretty casually. You might decide they aren't facts, or you might get really interested in the origin of anidea so you can discredit it, etc. Some people reject the theory of evolution. Others reject a history in in which many of the founding fathers of the USA were <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/atheist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atheist</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/agnostic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>agnostic</span></a>, or Not Very Good People. You can reject anything, really. You can reject the evidence of your eyes and ears, as the Party demands. It's kind of easy, in fact.</p><p>Millions of people think like this: they explicitly reject information that does not fit the narrative they have acquired through a process that depended 100% on subjective experiences (and, afterward, is heavily dominated by "authority figures" and trusted friends who tell you what to believe this week). </p><p>As a psychologist, even though <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DecisionScience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DecisionScience</span></a> is not my area of research, I can tell you various ways in which one's <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> experience can be manipulated, especially with the support of a life-saturating religious worldview and community. Relegating facts to a supporting role (at best) means giving all kinds of biases free rein in influencing your views. Facts were one of the things that might have minimized that process. In fact, I think facts as correctives for human biases was a main motivation underlying the development of the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ScientificMethod" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ScientificMethod</span></a>. </p><p>This becomes how you live your life: find out what's true, then rearrange your worldview, your attitudes, your specific beliefs, your behavior, and potentially even how you evaluate evidence to fit that knowledge. You aren't faking it, you aren't pretending; you simply believe something different. You see the world differently. I'm guessing you'd pass a lie detector test.</p><p>Note that nowhere in this process is there ever what a <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/philosopher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>philosopher</span></a>, a <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/scientist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>scientist</span></a>, or a mathematician would call an "honest, open inquiry." That would imply uncertainty about the outcome of the inquiry. It would imply a willingness to accept unexpected answers if the evidence or reasoning led there. That's not possible because there can be only one answer: what you already <em>know</em>. Evidence cannot be allowed to threaten knowledge.</p><p>Coincidentally, now you're a perfect member of the Trump/Musk/whoever personality cult. All you need are some trusted sources (e.g. friends, neighbors, celebrities, local church leaders) to tell you that <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> is a Good <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Christian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Christian</span></a>, that <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AOC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AOC</span></a> is secretly a communist, that <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Obama" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Obama</span></a> was born in Africa, that Killary is literally eating babies, that a pizza parlor has a torture basement, that Zelensky is a villain and Putin a hero, etc. Literally anything. You haven't just <em>learned how</em> to do this; it is <em>how your brain works</em>, now. This is how "reasoning" happens. This is how belief and worldview and personal commitment are formed and shifted.</p><p>Now you casually accept new concepts like "crisis actors", "alternative facts", the "deep state", and "feelings-based reality." You have no problem doing this. Conspiracy theories are a cakewalk; you could fully believe six impenetrable Qanon ravings before breakfast.</p><p>I've seen progressives casually assume that Evangelical-type Christians are hypocrites, or lying, or "virtue signaling" as they state their support for whatever value-violating thing Trump or Musk or any national GOP figure has said or done (e.g., "Hey, I now believe that god <em>doesn't</em> love disabled people, after all!"). I've accused conservatives of those things things myself, though I don't actually believe that's what is happening. What we're seeing is not just hypocrisy or dishonesty. What's happening, at least with many religious people, is that a trusted leader has told them they <em>should</em> believe a different thing, so now they do. It's that simple. Many might even die for their new belief in the right circumstances (certain Christians are a little bit obsessed with the possibility of dying for their faith, so this isn't as high a bar as you might think).</p><p>Sure, some people who flipflop overnight probably <em>are</em> lying or putting on an act even they don't truly believe. However, many more are simply being who they are, or who they've become by existing in this ideological/cultural system for years.</p><p>Obviously, I believe this kind of reasoning is not good and makes the world a better place. I would like to reduce it or even eliminate it. It is embedded, though, with other dynamics: ingroup/outgroup tribalism, authoritarianism (boy howdy do conservative churches train you to be an authoritarian), prejudices of various kinds, and basic cognitive biases (which run rampant in such environments).</p><p>It's also bound up with religious <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AntiIntellectualism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AntiIntellectualism</span></a>. In the LDS church, for instance, there's a scripture that gets tossed around at election time saying that being educated is good, but only up to a point (any education that leads a person to question God's words, etc. is by definition too much" learning). As a person with a graduate degree, my last decade or so in the LDS church was marked by a more or less constant social tension from the possibility that I might "know too much". </p><p>Education reliably reduces this problematic kind of thinking/believing system in many people. Specifically, "liberal arts" education (which isn't about liberalism or necessarily arts) is the special sauce; the classes many students will be forced to take for "general education" at most US universities are pretty good at teaching students different ways of thinking and helping them try on alternative worldviews. Many of the people learning multiple worldviews and getting some tools for reasoning and evidence, etc. tend to use them for the rest of their lives. Even truly exploring one or two <em>wrong</em> alternative worldviews or thinking patterns tends to yield big rewards over time. Notably, the GOP's attacks on higher ed have become much worse, recently.</p><p>Anyway, this is (IMO) what progressives are up against in the USA. It is not just that some people believe different things; it's that many of those people have entirely different cognitive/emotional/social structures and processes for how belief happens and what it means. </p><p>Undoing this will take generations. In the meantime, I encourage pushing back on conservative flip-flops. No matter what, not even Evangelical congressmen want to <em>look</em> inconsistent. Even the evangelicalest of Christians will sometimes engage with facts and reasoning to some degree, and pressure simply works, sometimes. Keep your expectations for personal change low, however. </p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/religion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>religion</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/uspol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>uspol</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/politics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>politics</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/thinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>thinking</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/epistemology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>epistemology</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/philosophy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>philosophy</span></a></p>
Groeten Uit Oss 🇺🇦<p>On Saturday, I am sitting in the train in an area reserved for bicycles. A man steps in the train, takes a foldable seat and exclaims on his phone "man, it's crowded. It's completely full!" I look around and I see 2 of the 4 regular seats still available and about 3 folding seats. <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/talkingwithoutfilter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>talkingwithoutfilter</span></a></p>
John Vaccaro (johniac)<p>Attention-Worthy Links for December 14th, 2024</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/awl121424" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">bit.ly/awl121424</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/anterior" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anterior</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/temporal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>temporal</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Heschl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Heschl</span></a>’s <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/gyrus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gyrus</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/dyslexia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dyslexia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Phonology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Phonology</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Io" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Io</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/magma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>magma</span></a> Jupiter <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/volcanism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>volcanism</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tidal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tidal</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/flexing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flexing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GPS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPS</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LEO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LEO</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/G5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>G5</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/planting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>planting</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autosteer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Autosteer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Consciousness" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Consciousness</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/inner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>inner</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/outer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>outer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/experience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>experience</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Nagel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nagel</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/objective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>objective</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Korea" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Korea</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/President" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>President</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/impeached" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>impeached</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/suspended" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>suspended</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/insurrection" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>insurrection</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ammonia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ammonia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sustainability</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SPT</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/recycling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>recycling</span></a></p>
CM Thiede<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>stefan</span></a></span> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/hotness" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hotness</span></a> is always <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> creating unnecessary <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/fire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fire</span></a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/swells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>swells</span></a> of <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/desire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>desire</span></a> leading to <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/fomo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fomo</span></a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/jealousy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jealousy</span></a> and <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/despair" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>despair</span></a> </p><p>Sounds like the same old <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/ride" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ride</span></a> but with a different <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/name" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>name</span></a> </p><p>What's in a name anyway?</p>
Matt Willemsen<p>Older People Who Use Psychedelics Show Fascinating Brain Functions<br><a href="https://www.sciencealert.com/older-people-who-use-psychedelics-show-fascinating-brain-functions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">sciencealert.com/older-people-</span><span class="invisible">who-use-psychedelics-show-fascinating-brain-functions</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/drugs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>drugs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/psychology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>psychology</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/hallucinogens" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hallucinogens</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/aging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aging</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/observational" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>observational</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/research" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>research</span></a></p>
C.<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nondeterministic.computer/@mjg59" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mjg59</span></a></span> </p><p>Unfortunately, that's a fuzzy and <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> line. Some random Hummer-driving MAGA-loving idiot may very well consider the leader of a "green" party to be a fascist for wanting to outlaw private vehicle ownership or non-EV vehicles or something like that.</p><p>I'm afraid that if you <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/condone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>condone</span></a> assault on a politician for their views, you are approving its use against all politicians, and I don't like where that leads.</p>
JBRoss<p>"We may&nbsp;try&nbsp;to&nbsp;see things&nbsp;as&nbsp;objectively as we please. None the less, we can never see them with any&nbsp;eyes except our own." — Benjamin N. Cardozo — — — <a href="https://mstdn.party/tags/BenjaminCardozo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BenjaminCardozo</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.party/tags/quote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quote</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.party/tags/quotes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quotes</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.party/tags/objectively" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>objectively</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.party/tags/unbiased" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>unbiased</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.party/tags/factual" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>factual</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.party/tags/experience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>experience</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.party/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.party/tags/emotional" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>emotional</span></a></p>
Susan Larson ♀️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🌈<p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/LesleyStahl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LesleyStahl</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Grills" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grills</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/JimJordan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JimJordan</span></a> on <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/60Minutes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>60Minutes</span></a> Over <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Conservative" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Conservative</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Misinformation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Misinformation</span></a> and the ‘<a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Truth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Truth</span></a>’ </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Farright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Farright</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Insurrectionist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Insurrectionist</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/JimJordan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JimJordan</span></a> attempts to <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/claim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>claim</span></a> that the <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/truth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>truth</span></a> is <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a>. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Women" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Women</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Transgender" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Transgender</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/LGBTQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LGBTQ</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/LGBTQIA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LGBTQIA</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Ohio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ohio</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Conservatives" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Conservatives</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Extremism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Extremism</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Fascism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fascism</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Propaganda" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Propaganda</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Disinformation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Disinformation</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Misinformation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Misinformation</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/RepublicanParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RepublicanParty</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/ThePartyOfHate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ThePartyOfHate</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://www.mediaite.com/tv/lesley-stahl-grills-jim-jordan-on-60-minutes-over-conservative-misinformation-and-the-truth/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">mediaite.com/tv/lesley-stahl-g</span><span class="invisible">rills-jim-jordan-on-60-minutes-over-conservative-misinformation-and-the-truth/</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>“What I understood is the regulations” <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Hur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hur</span></a> referred to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DOJ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DOJ</span></a> policy that says special counsel reports should be <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/confidential" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>confidential</span></a> to the AG. But AG <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/MerrickGarland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MerrickGarland</span></a> had made clear BEFOREHAND he would release much of Hur’s report.<br>
“You must have understood the impact of your words” Schiff said &amp; accused Hur of injecting “your own personal <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/prejudicial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prejudicial</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> opinion of the president, one you knew would be amplified by his <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/political" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>political</span></a> opponent. You had to understand that &amp; you did it anyway”</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a></p>
Steve Dustcircle 🌹<p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Objective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Objective</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/morality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>morality</span></a> -- really? </p><p><a href="https://new.exchristian.net/2024/01/objective-morality-really.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">new.exchristian.net/2024/01/ob</span><span class="invisible">jective-morality-really.html</span></a></p><p> One difference between believing there is an <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/objectivemorality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>objectivemorality</span></a> to be learned and an alternative view that we have evolved on our own, often overlapping (i.e., <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/moral" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>moral</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/values" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>values</span></a> based on our genetics, environment, and life experiences) is that the latter comes with more room for compromise, and the former adds fuel to the feeling that only one side is <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/objectively" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>objectively</span></a> correct and any opposition to it is <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/evil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>evil</span></a>. <br><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Religion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Religion</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Atheism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Atheism</span></a></p>
mikwee 🎗️<p><span>Happy </span><a href="https://calckey.world/tags/HumanRightsDay" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HumanRightsDay</a><span>! A good time to remember that </span><a href="https://calckey.world/tags/HumanRights" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HumanRights</a><span> are a highly </span><a href="https://calckey.world/tags/subjective" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#subjective</a><span> notion, which means everybody has different lists of human rights.</span></p>
Rasta<p>What do you know about Set Theory?</p><p>"As much as I know about String Theory"</p><p>I love stuff like this, creating thought about human constructs, subjective and objective results. </p><p>Russell's Paradox<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymGt7I4Yn3k" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=ymGt7I4Yn3</span><span class="invisible">k</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Video" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Video</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/HumanConstructs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HumanConstructs</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Mathmatics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mathmatics</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Subjective</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Objective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Objective</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Infinity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Infinity</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/SetTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SetTheory</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/GeorgCantor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeorgCantor</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Quote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Quote</span></a></p>
Answers in Reason<p>Moral Subjectivism - A matter of opinion. by AnswersInReason </p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@answersinreason/video/7143218779378568453" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">tiktok.com/@answersinreason/vi</span><span class="invisible">deo/7143218779378568453</span></a> <br> </p><p> </p><p> next up in our journey into meta-ethics is moral Subjectivism which differs from other forms of subjective morality </p><p> </p><p><a href="https://masto.nu/tags/morality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>morality</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/moralityshorts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>moralityshorts</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/ethics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ethics</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/ethicsandmorality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ethicsandmorality</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/morals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>morals</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/purpose" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>purpose</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/purposeofmorality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>purposeofmorality</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/metaethics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>metaethics</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/moralcognativism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>moralcognativism</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/moralnoncognstivism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>moralnoncognstivism</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/ethicaltheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ethicaltheory</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/shorts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>shorts</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/shortshorts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>shortshorts</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/moralsubjectivism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>moralsubjectivism</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/subjectivemorality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjectivemorality</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nu/tags/subjectivism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjectivism</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>“… A primary goal of this change is to ensure that the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> operates in a manner that is <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/objectively" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>objectively</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/respectful" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>respectful</span></a> of the individual <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/identity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>identity</span></a> &amp; personal <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/pronouns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pronouns</span></a> of the members of the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/public" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>public</span></a> that we <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/serve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>serve</span></a>, regardless of the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/viewpoints" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>viewpoints</span></a> of individuals working within the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/court" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>court</span></a> system,” <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Justice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Justice</span></a> Elizabeth Welch wrote in a concurring statement.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/LGBTQIA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LGBTQIA</span></a>+</p>
Bob3221<p>🌈 Shades of Brilliance: Objective Truth vs. Subjectivity ✨</p><p><a href="https://overtimephilosophy.com/objective-truth-defined-unveiling-the-pillars-of-reality/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">overtimephilosophy.com/objecti</span><span class="invisible">ve-truth-defined-unveiling-the-pillars-of-reality/</span></a></p><p>Explore how these two dance together – like light on a diamond's facets – shaping our understanding of everything from history to personal experiences. 🕊️ </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/Perspective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Perspective</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/Truth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Truth</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/Subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Subjective</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/Objective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Objective</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/Reality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Reality</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/Misinformation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Misinformation</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/Disinformation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Disinformation</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/Propaganda" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Propaganda</span></a></p>
Adam Denoon<p>This graphic makes some people very, very uncomfortable. </p><p><a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/perspective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>perspective</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/truth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>truth</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/objective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>objective</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/epistemology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>epistemology</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/debate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>debate</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/dimensionality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dimensionality</span></a></p>
Joan of Cat (she/her) 😼<p>In conversation with an only mildly annoying, seemingly authentic anti-<a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/shipper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>shipper</span></a> on <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a>, the anti-shipper continued to focus, despite every attempt I made to make them see reason, on the individual parts of <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/erotic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>erotic</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/furry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>furry</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/art" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>art</span></a>.</p><p>Specifically, they thought it was weird for erotic furry <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/artists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>artists</span></a> to draw <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/knots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>knots</span></a> (commonly understood as an <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/erectile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>erectile</span></a> tissue structure on the penis of <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/canid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>canid</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/mammals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mammals</span></a>, although weirdly, it's also present in some <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/plant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>plant</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/species" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>species</span></a>), and obviously, if an <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/artist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>artist</span></a> draws a <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/knot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>knot</span></a>, they must be attracted to <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/canines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>canines</span></a>, from which the knot is imagined to have derived.</p><p>This is a weird reach, and I'm about to explain why.</p><p>Erotic furry art is, at its core, less concerned with parts as it is with behaviors. That is to say, the parts are considered simply to exist upon the <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/fursona" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fursona</span></a> of the individual that carries it upon their <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/penis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>penis</span></a> in lieu of a human <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/glans" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>glans</span></a>. The intent of the artist is generally to draw their fursona (or a given <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/anthropomorphic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anthropomorphic</span></a> non-<a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/human" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>human</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/animal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>animal</span></a> character) engaging in an <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/action" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>action</span></a>. If the action takes place with a second (or more) character(s), then all of these characters will likely share some characteristics with the animals from which the inspiration for the character derived.</p><p>Yet these characters are often depicted behaving in remarkably human ways, even as they use their very animal parts on one another. As most of us are aware, very few animals (aside from some primates and their relatives) engage in foreplay and kink, yet these are behaviors often seen in erotic furry art.</p><p>Still, anti-shippers will focus entirely on the presence of a knot at the exclusion of everything else. In this way, their criticisms are very much like the <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/conservative" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>conservative</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/reactionary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reactionary</span></a>'s criticism of <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/Michelangelo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Michelangelo</span></a>'s <em>David</em>, a <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/statue" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statue</span></a> created with the purpose of depicting the <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/beauty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>beauty</span></a> of <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/man" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>man</span></a>, and less with the intent of showcasing a neo-classical <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/dick" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dick</span></a>. <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/David" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>David</span></a> is <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/nude" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nude</span></a>, yes, because the beauty of man would be hidden by clothes, obviously. But any reasonable person sees that statue and recognizes it as a work of art, not encouragement to go find dick of one's own to enjoy.</p><p>Only the conservative <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/reactionaries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reactionaries</span></a> focus on the singular part of David's flaccid dick and see <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/obscenity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>obscenity</span></a>, and I propose that this is because they are themselves driven to see that obscenity by their own <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/biases" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>biases</span></a> and repressed <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/desires" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>desires</span></a>. In effect, the fact that they <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/fetishize" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fetishize</span></a> the penis is precisely why they can't see anything BUT the penis when looking at the statue of David (or any other piece of art that includes a penis for any reason).</p><p>I see the same kind of behavior motivating the criticism of <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/zoophilia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>zoophilia</span></a> levied against erotic furry artists by the anti-shipper community. When the knot is not prominently displayed, the intent is often simply to draw <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/love" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>love</span></a>-making between two or more individuals seeking only pleasure among themselves. When the knot IS prominent, it serves as a metaphor for <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/domination" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>domination</span></a>, wherein the <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/bottom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bottom</span></a> is bonded or otherwise held in place, at the mercy of the <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/top" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>top</span></a>, in a position of <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/submission" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>submission</span></a> to the latter.</p><p>But when the anti-shipper views this form of artwork and only sees the desire to <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/rape" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rape</span></a> living non-human animals, could it be that they're seeing some hidden meaning within the work? Could it be that Michelangelo wanted us all to seek and bounce upon dick, flaccid or not? <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/Illustration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Illustration</span></a> and other forms of <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/visual" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>visual</span></a> art are inimitably <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> and their <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/interpretations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>interpretations</span></a> are greatly informed by the viewer's <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/subconscious" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subconscious</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/mind" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mind</span></a>.</p><p>So when an anti-shipper sees a knot and thinks, "this is about wanting to have <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/sex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sex</span></a> with <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/dogs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dogs</span></a>," I find myself wondering if this is a desire that the anti-shipper is <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/repressing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>repressing</span></a> and <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/projecting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>projecting</span></a> onto an artist that does not share that interest at all. Normal people don't see erotic furry art and think "the artist wants me to go rape an animal." And I think that's telling.</p><p><a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/antiShip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>antiShip</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/antiShippers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>antiShippers</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/zoophilia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>zoophilia</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/furryFandom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>furryFandom</span></a></p>
itsveganjim<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/johncage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>johncage</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/beauty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>beauty</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/quotes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quotes</span></a></p>
Leftist Lawyer<p>The opposite of <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/love" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>love</span></a> isn’t <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/hate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hate</span></a>. <br>The opposite of love is <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/fear" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fear</span></a>. </p><p>Bearing this in mind when dealing with <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/conflict" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>conflict</span></a> — at both the internal <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/personal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>personal</span></a> level, and <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/external" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>external</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/societal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>societal</span></a> level — yields far better <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/outcomes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>outcomes</span></a> because we can better explain seemingly <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/arbitrary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>arbitrary</span></a> actions through <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/objective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>objective</span></a> external <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/forces" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>forces</span></a> rather than <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/subjective" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subjective</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/internal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>internal</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/states" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>states</span></a> of <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mind" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mind</span></a>.</p>