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Marc Didier<p>Gestern beim Stadtpark Open Air Kinderkonzert folgende Perle gesehen.</p><p>Möge der Urheber bis ans Ende seiner Tage auf Legosteine treten.</p><p>Mich interessierend: <br>Gibt sowas am Ende wirklich mehr Trinkgeld für Angestellte?<br>Oder verdient hier nur ein Middle-Men was passiv mit?</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/darkpattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpattern</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/ecterminal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ecterminal</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/trinkgeld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>trinkgeld</span></a> </p><p>(N.B.: Es gab Trinkgeld, aber analog, ins da stehende Schweinschen...)</p>
Patrick Prémartin<p>Bénéficiaires du programme de fidélité de Flunch, pensez à passer sur <a href="https://www.flunch.fr/fidelite/abonnement" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">flunch.fr/fidelite/abonnement</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> pour refuser le partage de vos données avec des tiers.</p><p>Parce que pour eux, le refus de partage des données personnelles à des fins de statistiques et de publicité c'est un abonnement à activer.</p><p><a href="https://mastouille.fr/tags/Flunch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Flunch</span></a> <a href="https://mastouille.fr/tags/Fidelite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fidelite</span></a> <a href="https://mastouille.fr/tags/ViePrivee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ViePrivee</span></a> <a href="https://mastouille.fr/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a> <a href="https://mastouille.fr/tags/RGPD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RGPD</span></a></p>
Ian K. Rogers ikr?╭ರ_ಠ<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@noybeu" class="u-url mention">@<span>noybeu</span></a></span> AI has put so many &quot;fun&quot; twists on classic UX <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a> misdirections. If your consent UX isn&#39;t transparent, it&#39;s straight up grifting.</p>
9Lukas5 🚂 🐧<p>Wieso ist so ein Blödsinn eigentlich erlaubt? :blobcatfluffangry: </p><p><a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a> <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/Versicherung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Versicherung</span></a></p>
Mark Hughes<p>Every site that puts up a cookies dialogue is now saying loudly what their priority is, and it is NOT what they say it is.</p><p>It's a massive RED FLAG because they have a choice. Either<br>- inconvenience you from the very start because overall they see a benefit TO THEM or<br>- provide an option via a footer link to get extra features by accepting <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/cookies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cookies</span></a>, say "enable cookies" or "enable extras"</p><p>Today's culprit (for the eleventyth time: NO) is <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HargreavesLansdown" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HargreavesLansdown</span></a> for continued use of this <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a></p>
Paco Hope #resist<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://journa.host/@lolgop" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>lolgop</span></a></span> I support this idea and I will probably sign the petition (I’m a TM customer. Still mulling over whether I want to support Verizon or AT&amp;T instead). </p><p>I support <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/TeslaTakedown" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeslaTakedown</span></a> and participated in one of their protests. But look at how scummy this petition is.</p><p>First I notice that they inform me that I “may receive” email from a bunch of groups. That’s weird because it implies uncertainty. </p><p>Then I notice this microscopic, grey-on-grey text that says “edit subscription preferences”. I haven’t signed in to this site, so how do I even have any preferences to edit? I tap it and it expands to an already-opted-in list of ELEVEN different orgs who will all feel entitled to spam me because they will point to this as the time I affirmatively opted in to receive all their emails.</p><p>How many petition signers even see that, much less click it? This is a <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a> and this is really slimy. The ONLY way to be slimier would be to opt me in without even telling me. </p><p>The word “preferences” is plural, implying I have more than one preference. In practice my choice is to accept email from all 11 or none. It’s a single preference, hidden from view as much as possible.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DarkPatterns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPatterns</span></a></p>
Friedrich Delgado<p>So I've noticed that it's really hard to unfollow twitch streamers, both in the app and on the web. If you open the app, it plays some video, if you tap on the streamer you want to unfollow, it immediately shows a video, the unfollow button is shown briefly and is immediately replaced by chat. I'm 100% sure that this is on purpose to send you more notifications, never less and I hate it! <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/darkpattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpattern</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/twitch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>twitch</span></a></p>
drupalthoughts<p>I logged back into <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/pinterest" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pinterest</span></a> recently after reading about how it's gaining popularity again. Check out how the push and email notification toggles are all hidden behind accordions 🙀 <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/darkpattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpattern</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/darkpatterns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpatterns</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/DeceptivePatterns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeceptivePatterns</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/deceptivepattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deceptivepattern</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://em.erge.to/users/LunaDragofelis" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>LunaDragofelis</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodontech.de/@gulli" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gulli</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> worse even: </p><ul><li>They do this kind of shit - <em>just like other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a>|s like constantly nudging people into agreeibg with their tracking bs</em> - REGARDLESS if one uses <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TorBrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TorBrowser</span></a> and disables all <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cookies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cookies</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JavaScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JavaScript</span></a> or logs into a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/YouTube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>YouTube</span></a> account on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GoogleChrome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GoogleChrome</span></a>.</li></ul><p>So yet another reason I use <a href="https://inv.nadeko.net" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">inv.nadeko.net</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a>, cuz there's way less bs and it's recommendations ain't full of racist &amp; facist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RageBait" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RageBait</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClickBait" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ClickBait</span></a>!</p>
Naga<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://wandering.shop/@Nentuaby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Nentuaby</span></a></span> <br>Yeah, on my rant list for a long time. It should be at *least* as simple *and* conspicuous to log in as to sign up.</p><p>I mean, I get why it isn't *more* conspicuous, for marketing and making numbers go up, but it's hella obnoxious.</p><p><a href="https://weirder.earth/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a></p>
Nentuaby<p>Cripes, I hate how every website these days treats *logging in* as a weird, semi-hidden thing you can do (they GUESS) if you don't want to !!!!!SIGN UP!!!!!! for a brand new account.</p><p>It's like a <a href="https://wandering.shop/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a>, but it's not even trying to manipulate you into doing something advantageous to them. It's just a... Dumb pattern.</p>
Tarnkappe.info<p>📬 Manipulative Designtricks im Gaming: Verbraucherschützer mahnen fünf Spielehersteller ab<br><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Gaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gaming</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Rechtssachen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rechtssachen</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/ClashofClans" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ClashofClans</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Designtricks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Designtricks</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/FortniteEntwickler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FortniteEntwickler</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/SubwaySurfers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SubwaySurfers</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/vzbvStudie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>vzbvStudie</span></a> <a href="https://sc.tarnkappe.info/6d4e94" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">sc.tarnkappe.info/6d4e94</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Preston von Gabbleduck<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@aaronk6" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>aaronk6</span></a></span> I remain of the opinion that "Not Now" / "Remind em later" is a <a href="https://aus.social/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a> in <a href="https://aus.social/tags/UX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UX</span></a>, no matter where it is being used.</p>
Paco Hope #resist<p>I managed to get a video of this dark pattern. 12 seconds in you can finally see the faint "skip" button pop in. First I have to click the 'What's happening under the hood?" link. Then I have to leave the explanation on the screen for a while, then skip appears.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/darkpattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpattern</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/darkpatterns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpatterns</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ui" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ui</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ux</span></a></p>
John McLear<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@DamonHD" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>DamonHD</span></a></span> soundclouds "leave me alone" button is desperately far away from it's parent container... <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/darkpattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpattern</span></a></p>
Paco Hope #resist<p>Here's a nice <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/darkpattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpattern</span></a> from <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AmazonQDeveloper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AmazonQDeveloper</span></a>. Installing it on my <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>debian</span></a> laptop and it pops up this GUI. Now, grey text on white background is a completely pedestrian dark pattern.</p><p>The thing that is new for me, that isn't obvious from a single screenshot, is that the "skip" grey text doesn't appear at all for like 10-20 seconds. When you first see this dialog box, there's no 'skip' button. This might lead you to believe it isn't possible to skip. I tend to read things that pop up. And so while I was reading the skip button appeared.</p><p>Thanks <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/darkpatterns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpatterns</span></a></p>
rich<p>Ah,yes- the two possible responses😡<br><a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/darkpattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpattern</span></a></p>
Mattsi<p>Extremely shitty <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/darkpattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>darkpattern</span></a> </p><p>That check box has a hidden scroll bar that only appears if you hover over it or use the scroll wheel, which reveals a second check box allowing you to opt-out. The continue button is grayed out until you pick either one 🙃</p>
Marcel SIneM(S)US<p>Verbraucherminister machen gegen <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/DarkPatterns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPatterns</span></a> und gezielte Werbung mobil | heise online <a href="https://www.heise.de/news/Verbraucherminister-machen-gegen-Dark-Patterns-und-gezielte-Werbung-mobil-10398656.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">heise.de/news/Verbraucherminis</span><span class="invisible">ter-machen-gegen-Dark-Patterns-und-gezielte-Werbung-mobil-10398656.html</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Datenschutz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Datenschutz</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a></p>
Tom Sheppard<p>I'm trying to send someone a Windows self-extracting archive file. It's a little .exe program. I put it on Dropbox but when you click on the link you see the first image. If you click the Download button you see the second image. You have to ignore everything but the last line to just download the file. Talk about dark patterns.</p><p><a href="https://twit.social/tags/Dropbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Dropbox</span></a> <a href="https://twit.social/tags/DarkPattern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkPattern</span></a></p>