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Sky - Your Infernal Majesty

Manche Menschen bevorzugen Mastodon – einige von ihnen sind fest davon überzeugt, während andere das gesamte Fediverse noch gar nicht richtig kennen. Dann gibt es wiederum diejenigen, die sich darüber aufregen, dass so viel über Mastodon geredet wird, weil sie selbst das ganze Fediverse schätzen und es nicht mögen, wenn eine Plattform so stark im Fokus steht.

Aber mal ehrlich, liebe Leute: Könnt ihr nicht einfach akzeptieren, dass jede:r Nutzer:in ihre bzw. seine eigene Meinung und Entscheidung hat? Muss wirklich jede Diskussion darüber ausarten, ob Mastodon „die eine“ Plattform ist oder ob es nicht vielmehr um das gesamte Fediverse gehen sollte? Könnt ihr nicht einfach zulassen, dass jede:r ihre oder seine eigene Reise durch das Fediverse macht – mit all den Umwegen, Entdeckungen und persönlichen Vorlieben?

Natürlich ist es schön, wenn ihr die für euch passende Plattform gefunden habt. Aber warum reicht es dann nicht aus, sich einfach darüber zu freuen, anstatt immer wieder zu betonen, wie falsch es angeblich ist, von Mastodon zu sprechen, anstatt das Fediverse als Ganzes zu nennen? Oder gar darüber zu urteilen, dass manche bewusst bei Mastodon bleiben wollen?

Und ihr, die Mastodon-Hardliner – auch ihr dürft es gerne etwas entspannter angehen lassen. Es ist großartig, wenn euch Mastodon begeistert, aber man muss aus dem Rüsseltier keine Religion machen. Ja, Mastodon ist eine tolle Plattform, aber auch die anderen Netzwerke haben ihre Vorzüge – genauso wie sie ihre Schwächen haben. Und genau deshalb haben sie alle ihre Berechtigung. Dieser ewige „Klassenkampf“ zwischen den Plattform-Nutzer:innen ist auf Dauer einfach nur ermüdend und bringt niemanden weiter.

Lasst die Menschen doch einfach in ihrem eigenen Tempo das Fediverse erkunden. Jede:r geht diesen Weg anders – einige bleiben bei Mastodon, andere ziehen weiter und probieren Neues aus.

Ich selbst habe damals auch mit Mastodon angefangen. Jahrelang war es mein Zuhause, bevor ich begann, andere Plattformen zu erkunden. Manche fand ich großartig, andere haben mir überhaupt nicht gefallen. Und am Ende? Da bin ich wieder bei Mastodon gelandet – weil es mir persönlich einfach am besten gefällt.

Also, genießt das, was ihr nutzt, freut euch über eure Community – und gesteht allen anderen dasselbe zu. 😊

#Mastodon #Fediverse #Sharkey, #CherryPick, #Catodon, #Iceshrimp, #Misskey #Friendica

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J. Steven York RESISTS

My cat Susy LOVES her rechargable, motorized cat toys seen in the pic. But I've now had to repair both of them. Tonight was the smaller (and also newer) one at the top. Both have now had their gearmotors replaced with new ones I found on Ebay. The new motors appear identical, but are MUCH quieter than the originals, which is nice since they can turn on in the middle of the night.
(Cont.)
#makers #righttorepair #adafruit #hardwarehacking #cats #cattoys #diy #CatsOfMastodon #catodon

Rectangular rug with two motorized cat toys in the middle. The toys consist of a white circular base with a small rotating turret in the middle from which two stiff wires project, one up, and one straight out to the side. Various feather and fur "targets" are attached to the ends of the wires that the cat can stalk and catch as they move.
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crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts

Juten Morjen beste Timeline im #Catodon Netzwerk
Ich sehe eindeutig zu wenig Katzenohren, da haben sich wohl Fremde in unser Netzwerk eingeschlichen? ​:catplay:​

Na ja, auch egal.
Ich soll euch einen schönen Gruß von meinem Gehirn ausrichten.
Außer buntem Brei habe ich mir wieder nichts vom Traum merken können. Nur, das das #Drecksding am Ende da auch mitgespielt hat und ich deswegen beinahe seinen wirklichen Arbeitsauftrag nicht erkannt hatte.
Das wäre es gewesen, nur weil #rebelTräumt verpennen und zu spät auf Arbeit..... 😁

Habt den Tag schön, auch wenn das Wetter was anderes behauptet

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Jozz

Cuando encuentras el momento justo para una foto no debes perder la oportunidad.

En este intento tome una sola foto, quería hacer unas 2 o 3 para sacar la que mas me gustara, Pero luego Olivia ( mi gata ) se dió cuenta de mi presencia y decidió entonces levantarse y pedirme comida.

De la serie Tardes de chill con mis gatos.

Es una foto de una gatita descansando sobre uno de sus costados, con sus patas estiradas mientras está relajada sobre un piso calentito de concreto.
#catsofmastodon#catodon#gatos
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crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts

Morjen Freunde im #Catodon Netzwerk 😉

Die Nacht war erquickebd mit einem tollen Traum, den ichbwidet mal nicht zusammen bekomme.

Dann eben früh zum Bäcker, Brötchen holen. Dann Koch mal auf Arbeit, die Leitung hatte vergessen mir zu sagen, das da heute eine Veranstaltung ist und die Heizung gehen sollte 🤭

Danach noch mal zum Bogensport Training.
Gefühlt war es nicht so fokussiert, wie gestern Abend, dabeinwarenndie Ergebnisse echt nicht schlecht. Die Finger kommen auch langsam wieder klar und es wird besser, wenn sich der Rheumaschub verpisst.
Eine 196 und eine 230 an Ringen habe ich geschossen.

Nach dem Training folgte einkaufen und jetzt sollten zu Hause alle fertig sein, das wir noch mal wegen der Jugendweihe Kleider los können.

Der Tag ist voll mit allem. 😅

#Sport #Archery #Bogensport #Papasein #FediEltern

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Jupiter Rowland
@PaulaToThePeople It isn't just a matter of consent. Besides, for example, I do have quote-post control here on Hubzilla.

I can give permission to quote-post my posts to
  • everyone in the Fediverse
  • everyone on Hubzilla and (streams)
  • everyone on this hub
  • approved and unapproved connections
  • only approved connections
  • only those of my connections whom I explicitly give permission by contact role
  • nobody but myself

Over on (streams), I can still give that permission to
  • everyone in the Fediverse
  • all my connections
  • only myself + specific connections whom I grant that permission either by permission role or by individual connection settings

It's much more a matter of technology.

Mastodon is about to completely re-invent the wheel with a non-standard, Mastodon-only setting. This setting will only work within Mastodon simply because it probably won't even be documented anywhere, especially not before it's officially rolled out.

There simply is no way that every last instance of Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc. will have that setting implemented before Mastodon rolls it out so that even the users on mastodon.social are perfectly safe from the first second on.

Besides, @Mike Macgirvin 🖥️, creator of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte and still the only maintainer of the latter two, will never introduce proprietary Mastodon features to them. He'd rather risk (streams) and Forte becoming incompatible with Mastodon. The same goes for @Mario Vavti and @Harald Eilertsen, Hubzilla's main maintainers.

If Mastodon wants to become a perfectly safe haven against unallowed quote-posting, it has only got one choice: It must introduce something like (streams)' and Forte's user agent filter and use it to block just everything that isn't Mastodon. Like, include a hard-coded allowlist that only includes Mastodon plus what little can't quote or quote-post anyway.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
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Jupiter Rowland
@PaulaToThePeople @Stefan Bohacek Keep one thing in mind:

Mastodon may not have quote-posts yet. But the Fediverse has quote-posts right now. And it has had them since before Mastodon was made.

Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc., they all have quote-posts. They're all fully capable of quote-posting any Mastodon toot.

None of them has introduced quote-posts to harass Twitter refugees on Mastodon. At least Friendica and Hubzilla have had quote-posts since long before Mastodon was even made.

You will be able to choose whether your posts can be quoted at all.

At least by Mastodon users.

But since this will be Mastodon re-inventing the wheel with brand-new, proprietary, Mastodon-only technology, everything I've listed above will still be able to quote-post anyone and anything on Mastodon with zero resistance.

To quote-post myself and the guy who invented Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte:

Jupiter Rowland schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 20 Jul 2024 01:29:11 +0200 I think I've just chased someone out of the Fediverse.

That someone was afraid of Mastodon being "screwed over" by becoming quote-post-able.

I've told him the truth: Mastodon has been quote-post-able for as long as it has been around. Mastodon became quote-post-able the very moment it was launched.

That's because when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with Friendica which is from 2010, which had been around for almost six years at that point, and which has had quote-posts from its own inception AFAIK. Mastodon also immediately federated with Hubzilla which has had quote-posts since its own inception, since it had been forked from Friendica, and that was in 2012.

Mastodon has never been un-quote-post-able.

Right now, there are dozens of Fediverse server apps whose users can quote-post Mastodon toots with no resistance.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
Mike Macgirvin 🖥️ schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 20 Jul 2024 03:18:39 +0200 The closest you'll ever get to making Mastodon un-quote-postable is to post privately. Not unlisted. Private. Most fediverse software will honour this today; and it doesn't require yet another "pretend permission". Like unlisted.

And Mike should know. He brought things to the Fediverse like actually working permissions. Including permissions on two levels to quote-post any content on a channel. Readily available right now at least on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte.

Also, this is what people on Friendica and its descendants have been using quote-posts for since 2010.

You will be notified when someone quotes you.

You already are when someone on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte quote-posts one of your posts.

As for Pleroma, Misskey and their forks, you aren't notified right now, and I've got my doubts that you will be after this change.

Also, "quote" and "quote-post" are two different things. Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can do both. "Quote" is what I'm doing right here. Whether or not you're notified depends on whether or not you're mentioned.

And blocking quotes is even less possible. A quote only consists of a pair of BBcode tags plus the quoted text in-between. And on Friendica and all its descendants, you don't work with a WYSIWYG editor by default, but you have to get your hands dirty on raw markup code.

You will be able to withdraw your post from the quoted context at any time.

Again, probably not if someone on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks quote-posts you.

And definitely not if someone on Friendica or one of its descendants quote-posts you.

The difference is that a quote-post on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks is actually a reference to the original. On Friendica and its descendants, a quote-post is an automatically generated dumb copy of the original.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
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Jupiter Rowland
@JustBob Discord has completely warped the term "server" for entire generations of Internet users. On Discord, "server" means "chatroom".

In the Fediverse, "server" doesn't mean "chatroom". It means "server". A computer.

For example, a rack computer with no screen and no keyboard and no mouse bolted into a server rack at a data centre.

Or an old laptop that someone had lying around or a Raspberry Pi mini-computer running at someone's home, connected to their landline.

On each one of these, a big or small Twitter can be running (Mastodon).

Or a wholly different Twitter (Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, Sharkey, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko...).

(Here's the first important new thing for you to learn about the Fediverse: The Fediverse is not only Mastodon.)

Or a Facebook with a side of a blog and a cloud server (Friendica, (streams), Forte).

(Here's the second important new thing for you to learn about the Fediverse: The Fediverse is not only short-form microblogging. Look at this comment. Look at what I've done. Embedded links. Bold type. Impossible on Mastodon. But possible elsewhere in the Fediverse.)

Or a Facebook meets WordPress meets Google Cloud Services meets even more stuff on top (Hubzilla; this is where I am).

Or an Instagram (Pixelfed).

Or a YouTube (PeerTube).

Or a Twitch (Owncast).

Or a Reddit (Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed).

Or a Goodreads (BookWyrm).

Or whatever. There are over 150 different server applications in the Fediverse.

mastodon.social, where you are, is only one of over 10,000 big and small Twitters of the same kind (Mastodon).

If Mastodon was like Discord, all 10,000+ Mastodon servers would run in one and the same gigantic data centre in the USA, owned by Mastodon, Inc. And they would all be property of Mastodon, Inc.

If the Fediverse was like Discord, all 30,000+ Fediverse servers would run in one and the same gigantic data centre in the USA, owned by Mastodon, Inc. And they would all be property of Mastodon, Inc. Also, they would be fully identical in functionality.

But as I've said above: They're all running on their own separate machines. With their own separate owners.

And the different server applications have different developers, and they are being developed independently from one another.

Okay, now comes the kicker: These server applications are not walled up against one another. Not only are all instances of the same server applications (e.g. Mastodon) connected to each other, but all instances of one server application are also connected to all instances of all the other server applications.

Imagine you're on Twitter. But your new friend is on Facebook. You can't follow a Facebook user on Twitter, and you can't follow a Twitter user on Facebook.

In the Fediverse, you can. You can be on Twitter. And follow a Facebook user. Directly from Twitter. Without a Facebook account.

Only that they aren't named Twitter and Facebook in the Fediverse. Twitter is named Mastodon or Pleroma or Akkoma or Misskey or Calckey or Firefish or Iceshrimp or Sharkey or Catodon or... There are dozens of Twitter alternatives in the Fediverse. Well, and Facebook is named Friendica or Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte.

You can be on Mastodon. And you can follow Friendica accounts. From Mastodon. Without a Friendica account.

This comment is a very good example. You are on Mastodon, created by @Eugen Rochko in 2016 as an alternative to Twitter that aimed to be as close to Twitter as possible.

The server that you're on, mastodon.social, is owned by Mastodon, Inc. and running on one or multiple rack servers in San Francisco, California, USA owned by Fastly.

I am on Hubzilla, created by @Mike Macgirvin 🖥️ in 2012 by forking his own Friendica from 2010, and currently mainly maintained by @Mario Vavti and @Harald Eilertsen. Hubzilla has got nothing to do with Mastodon whatsoever. It started out as an alternative to Facebook, but not a clone, rather better than Facebook, with full-blown long-form blogging capability and a built-in file storage, and it has been enhanced greatly in functionality even beyond that.

The server that I'm on, Netzgemeinde, is owned and administered by @Mark Nowiasz, who has no affiliation with the Hubzilla developers, and running on a rack server in Nuremberg, Germany owned by Netcup.

And yet, you can see this comment coming from Hubzilla on Mastodon.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Server #Instance #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #Sharkey #Catodon #Meisskey #Tanukey #Neko #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Pixelfed #PeerTube #Owncast #Lemmy #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #BookWyrm #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse
GeeksforGeeks · What is a Server? - GeeksforGeeksA server is a hardware device or software that processes requests from clients over a network, providing various services such as data sharing, computation, and resource management in a client-server model.
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Panos Damelos :catodon:

Why I think that #NodeBB's latest release can be a game changer for the #Fediverse

For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in #Firefish, and what we wanted to do with #Catodon - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

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