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Strypey<p>Listening to Evgeny Morozov's description of General Pinochet's September 11 coup in Chile, and the accounts of some of the survivors he interviewed, I'm reminded of just how much worse anticommunist authoritarianism can get;</p><p><a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-7-a-room-of-ones-own-PJcvitxhkV7/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">listennotes.com/podcasts/the-s</span><span class="invisible">antiago-boys/ep-7-a-room-of-ones-own-PJcvitxhkV7/</span></a></p><p>Right now the intellectual descendants of the Chicago Boys are asset stripping the US federal government. But no one is being tortured or killed yet. Right?</p><p>(1/2)</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/podcasts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>podcasts</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ChoraMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ChoraMedia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Chile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chile</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Pinochet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pinochet</span></a></p>
Strypey<p>"In Santiago, things are very different now. The Chicago Boys have been put in charge of the economy [of Chile]. While Milton Friedman - their favourite guru - has even come to visit [Augusto] Pinochet, and even take a picture with this despicable dictator."</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/EvgenyMorozov" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EvgenyMorozov</span></a>, 2023</p><p><a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-8-of-condors-and-caravans-5_0lZzJ4pLF/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">listennotes.com/podcasts/the-s</span><span class="invisible">antiago-boys/ep-8-of-condors-and-caravans-5_0lZzJ4pLF/</span></a></p><p>(1/?)</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/podcasts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>podcasts</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ChoraMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ChoraMedia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ChicagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ChicagoBoys</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/MiltonFriedman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MiltonFriedman</span></a></p>
Strypey<p>"There is no one better qualified to model a plant, than the man whose life is spent working in it. He knows. We have constructed a little tool, in the quantified flow chart, and in handing this tool to the workers, we have no technocratic problems."</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/StaffordBeer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StaffordBeer</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">listennotes.com/podcasts/the-s</span><span class="invisible">antiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/podcasts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>podcasts</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ChoraMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ChoraMedia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a></p>
Strypey<p>"There are now competing visions of what exactly cybernetic software is supposed to do. Stafford Beer thinks it's a tool for the people. Others on the team take a more limited view. Seeing it as nothing but an experimental tool for managing the economy. And a prototype really. And a technocratic one at that."</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/EvgenyMorozov" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EvgenyMorozov</span></a>, 2023</p><p><a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">listennotes.com/podcasts/the-s</span><span class="invisible">antiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/podcasts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>podcasts</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ChoraMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ChoraMedia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/StaffordBeer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StaffordBeer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Chile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chile</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ProjectCybersyn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProjectCybersyn</span></a></p>
Strypey<p>Hey <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@mike_hales" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mike_hales</span></a></span>, I didn't know you interviewed Stafford Beer during Project Cybersyn!</p><p><a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-5-the-super-technocrat-of-P-pdmZza2UN/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">listennotes.com/podcasts/the-s</span><span class="invisible">antiago-boys/ep-5-the-super-technocrat-of-P-pdmZza2UN/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/podcasts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>podcasts</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/StaffordBeer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StaffordBeer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ProjectCybersyn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProjectCybersyn</span></a></p>
Strypey<p>"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.</p><p>'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/EvgenyMorozov" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EvgenyMorozov</span></a>, 2023</p><p><a href="https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes/podcast-002" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">the-santiago-boys.com/episodes</span><span class="invisible">/podcast-002</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/podcasts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>podcasts</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Chile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chile</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/socialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>socialism</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/EconomicPlanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EconomicPlanning</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/StaffordBeer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StaffordBeer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/CyberSyn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CyberSyn</span></a></p>
Victor Morel - Ummon<p>I recently finished the podcast The Santiago Boys <a href="https://the-santiago-boys.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">the-santiago-boys.com/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> by Evgeny Morozov, and I have to say it's an absolute jewel of a podcast: captivating plot, amazing production, on top of a super relevant topic!</p><p>I do recommend :) </p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/thesantiagoboys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>thesantiagoboys</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/EvgenyMorozov" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EvgenyMorozov</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>podcast</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/techpolicy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>techpolicy</span></a></p>
Tekto<p>New article on The Santiago Boy, propaganda and information at war:</p><p>"Faithfulness in design &amp; infidelity at war.<br>Informational naivety &amp; the cybernetics of misdirection."<br>-<br>Feedback and thoughts are most welcome &lt;3 </p><p><a href="https://tektology.substack.com/p/faithfulness-in-design-and-infidelity" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">tektology.substack.com/p/faith</span><span class="invisible">fulness-in-design-and-infidelity</span></a> <br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/thesantiagoboys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>thesantiagoboys</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a></p>
JP de Vooght<p>After Eden Medina, Evgeny Morozov takes a stab at the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Cybersyn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cybersyn</span></a> story with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> - the podcast helped me better understand the role of Fernando Flores in the development, after he famously introduced Beer to Allende <a href="https://the-santiago-boys.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">the-santiago-boys.com/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
stefania maurizi<p>it took 2 years of work and 200 interviews this wonderful podcast by <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EvgenyMorozov" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EvgenyMorozov</span></a>: </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a></p><p><a href="https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">the-santiago-boys.com/episodes</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Stefano Zacchiroli<p>wonderful review of <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> podcast: « The Political Sins of Cybernetics: A Review of Evgeny Morozov’s The Santiago Boys, Felipe Figueroa » <a href="https://social-epistemology.com/2023/08/16/the-political-sins-of-cybernetics-a-review-of-evgeny-morozovs-the-santiago-boys-felipe-figueroa/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">social-epistemology.com/2023/0</span><span class="invisible">8/16/the-political-sins-of-cybernetics-a-review-of-evgeny-morozovs-the-santiago-boys-felipe-figueroa/</span></a></p>
Stefano Zacchiroli<p><a href="https://mastodon.xyz/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a>: <a href="https://the-santiago-boys.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">the-santiago-boys.com/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> ← a very important <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/tags/podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>podcast</span></a> (and larger surrounding project) that you should absolutely listen to if you are into technology, autonomy, "sovereignty", etc.</p>
Chad Kohalyk<p>Just finished the first episode of Evgeny Morozov's new podcast series. It is pretty good! The website and all the extra materials is fantastic.</p><p><a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>podcast</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/EvgenyMorozov" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EvgenyMorozov</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/Cybersyn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cybersyn</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/Chile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chile</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>history</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/DarkTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DarkTech</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://the-santiago-boys.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">the-santiago-boys.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Grigør<p>Banger podcast, highly recommend <a href="https://the-santiago-boys.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">the-santiago-boys.com/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/theSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>theSantiagoBoys</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/chile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chile</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/cybersyn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybersyn</span></a></p>
Jenny Lepies<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@wstieler" class="u-url mention">@<span>wstieler</span></a></span> Wer noch nicht genug zu hören hat, hier der Link zu unserem Podcast-Tipp: </p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> (ein Wortspiel mit &quot;The Chicago Boys&quot;) <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/EvgenyMorozov" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>EvgenyMorozov</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Podcast</span></a> </p><p>▶️ <a href="https://the-santiago-boys.com/?ref=post-utopia.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">the-santiago-boys.com/?ref=pos</span><span class="invisible">t-utopia.com</span></a></p>
Johannes<p>Habt ihr schon <a href="https://norden.social/tags/TheSantiagoBoys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TheSantiagoBoys</span></a> gehört, ein Podcast über <a href="https://norden.social/tags/Cybersyn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cybersyn</span></a> von <span class="h-card"><a href="https://t.l3r.me/users/evgenymorozov" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>evgenymorozov</span></a></span> ?<br>Klingt vielversprechend, dem widme ich mich mal die nächsten Tage …</p><p><a href="https://choramedia.com/podcast/the-santiago-boys/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">choramedia.com/podcast/the-san</span><span class="invisible">tiago-boys/</span></a></p>