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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>I think the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LightPhone3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LightPhone3</span></a> is better <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTCDxX-UnQ" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">than</a> a shitty <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ProducedEwaste" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProducedEwaste</span></a>"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> 8.1 brick from China but I don't consider it worth the premium asked [U$D 799 MSRP, U$D 599 preorder] for it.</p><ul><li>Plus their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Website" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Website</span></a> <a href="https://www.thelightphone.com/lightiii" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">being built to mandate</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JavaScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JavaScript</span></a> isn't very <em>"respecting"</em> of me as a potential user.</li></ul><p>I think people can get a better experience buying a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/degoogled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>degoogled</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fairphone</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eOS</span></a> and just put <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RelaunchX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RelaunchX</span></a> as an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eInk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eInk</span></a>-optimized <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/launcher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>launcher</span></a> on it and have a better option.</p><ul><li>But I guess given <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ForProfitHealthcare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ForProfitHealthcare</span></a> in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> is expensive I can see why a lot of people would rather buy such a device and sell their old one than seek therapy if they are susceptible to shitty patterns that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>developers</span></a> harness to maximize <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/screentime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>screentime</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/revenue" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>revenue</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Can't have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/doomscrolling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>doomscrolling</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/microtransactions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>microtransactions</span></a> if it doesn't support <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSAbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NSAbook</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>apps</span></a> or shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayToLoose" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PayToLoose</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/games" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>games</span></a>...</p><ul><li>I do however acknowledge that there is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/market" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>market</span></a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/smol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smol</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sleek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sleek</span></a> <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StupidPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhones</span></a>"</em> or rather compact <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Smartphones</span></a> and I do want to see more competition for it.</li></ul><p>What I do have to say is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MKBHD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MKBHD</span></a> acknowledges that <em>he isn't the target audience and "that's fine"</em>...</p><ul><li>I just think that requiring people to sign up to some account just to be able to add/remove <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apps</span></a> is a major <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nope" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>nope</span></a> in my book.</li></ul><p>I stayed off <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GooglePlay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GooglePlay</span></a> for longer than it's being called like that and their <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/lightOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lightOS</span></a>"</em> is most likely some tightly locked-down Android...</p><ul><li>It's just an insultingly high pricetag for &lt; $200 internals and the best feature they have isn't even the phone but offering <a href="https://www.thelightphone.com/plans" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">a <em>"no frills"</em> plan</a> which seems <em>okay (by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> standards!)</em> but still...</li></ul><p>I think people would be more accepting if it was a $299 or even $399 device, but at a price of <a href="https://store.monocles.eu/shop/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">a</a> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/phone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>phone</span></a> whilst being way less versatile it's just not worth it.</p><ul><li>Cuz it's not even a <em>super "secure"</em> device or offers something like a <em>"concierge service"</em> where the device price is artifically high to filter out <em>average <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WageWorkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WageWorkers</span></a></em> without much disposable income...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>JessTheUnstill</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Pibble" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Pibble</span></a></span> </p><p>If your threat model is "<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill/114297926333193887" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">theft of devices by cops</a>", make shure to be <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F59iKSrx63c" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">able to commit</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssetDenial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AssetDenial</span></a> <em>or</em> have nothing on the devices they can use!</p><ul><li>Burner <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StupidPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhones</span></a> and (e)SIM-Cards are cheap. keep them switched off and the battery pulled out!</li></ul><p>I'd consider wasting €20 on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StupidPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhone</span></a>, €20 on a rewriteable <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMcard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMcard</span></a> and €10-20 on an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> a <em>"necessary expense"</em> and I'd gladly show people how to get that stuff and not burn their opsec/anonymity by doing so...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://universeodon.com/@Swede1952" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Swede1952</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://corteximplant.com/@ety" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ety</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://corteximplant.com/@x00001" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>x00001</span></a></span> I'm serious...</p><p>In fact such <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FWT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FWT</span></a>"</em> or <em>"Fixed Wireless Terminal"</em> adaptors are actually quite common, as they basically allow folks to keep their beloved phones - espechally those with hearing aid compatibility or additional functions like a wireless emergency button - and just transition from (sadly discontinued and) expensive <em>"basic landline"</em> to cheap pay-as-you postpaid or prepaid plans.</p><ul><li>In some cases they even allow people to port their landline number to some providers, so that i.e. seniors can retain their decades-old number <em>and</em> in return get like good reception because most FWTs come with an option to plug in an external antenna...</li></ul><p>OFC those boxes exist in various forms, from something akin to a Router like the Fritz!Box LTE series to the more commonplace <em>"Trashcan"</em>-esque cylinders for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/5G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>5G</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MIMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MIMO</span></a>. Sadly most don't include like a batter backup but there are also <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GSM</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeskPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeskPhone</span></a>|s"</em> that are basically <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StupidPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhones</span></a> (some absurdly expensive ones are just bulky <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smartphones</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Phablets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Phablets</span></a> if not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tablets</span></a>) with dedicaded physical buttons and aside from being able to send/recieve <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMS</span></a> and potentially offer a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WiFi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WiFi</span></a> hotspot as well as almost always have a prominently large antenna sticking out the back, they look like your average Desktop Phone from an office...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@bbk" class="u-url mention">@<span>bbk</span></a></span> anscheinend ist das Übermitteln von <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Warnmelung" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Warnmelung</span></a>|en per <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/CellBroadcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>CellBroadcast</span></a> noch nicht zuverlässig.</p><p>Bevölkerungs-<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Warnung" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Warnung</span></a> wegen F3 in <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Leverkusen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Leverkusen</span></a> kam per <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Sirene" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Sirene</span></a> und Cell Broadcast im Netz der <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DTAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DTAG</span></a> jedoch nicht im Netz von <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/O2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>O2</span></a> Telefonica / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ePlus" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>ePlus</span></a> KPN bzw. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MVNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>MVNO</span></a>|s die dieses nutzen.</p><p>Ich denke mal <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@bsi" class="u-url mention">@<span>bsi</span></a></span> sollte da mal freundlich nachfragen warum...</p><p>Vorallem da Cell Broadcast selbst auf <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/StupidPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>StupidPhones</span></a> zuverlässig funktioniert.</p><p><a href="https://warnung.bund.de/meldungen/mow.DE-NW-LEV-SE046-20230813-46-001/Brand_in_Leverkusen_Buerrig_KuepperstegRheindorf_Opladen/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">warnung.bund.de/meldungen/mow.</span><span class="invisible">DE-NW-LEV-SE046-20230813-46-001/Brand_in_Leverkusen_Buerrig_KuepperstegRheindorf_Opladen/</span></a><br /><a href="https://www.radioleverkusen.de/artikel/feuer-in-brotfabrik-in-quettingen-1733935.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">radioleverkusen.de/artikel/feu</span><span class="invisible">er-in-brotfabrik-in-quettingen-1733935.html</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://eightpoint.app/@12" class="u-url mention">@<span>12</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.naln1.ca/users/naln1" class="u-url mention">@<span>naln1</span></a></span> also this may depend on the manufacturer and the SoC as well as Firmware they use...</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/StupidPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>StupidPhones</span></a> were far less powerful and quite restrictive back then...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@yakkoj" class="u-url mention">@<span>yakkoj</span></a></span> yeah...</p><p>What I&#39;d love to see are more <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/electronics" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>electronics</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/VendingMachines" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>VendingMachines</span></a> just selling basic essentials like a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Powerbank" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Powerbank</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/USB" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>USB</span></a>-C cables, Top-Up vouchers for <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Prepaid</span></a> cards and potentially <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/StupidPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>StupidPhones</span></a>!</p>
stoicmike<p><a href="https://zirk.us/tags/phones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>phones</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smartphones</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/stupidphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>stupidphones</span></a></p>