Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@glitzersachen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>glitzersachen</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://groupe-tazor.com/@Yuki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Yuki</span></a></span> relative... </p><p>I think that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@cperciva" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cperciva</span></a></span> et. al. made a good product & service with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tarsnap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tarsnap</span></a> and their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a>-based <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>encryption</span></a> is solid.</p><ul><li>It's just that it is still a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solution and that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> say <em>"No!"</em> when it comes to handing over data to 3rd parties outside the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> that are subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>, regardless if it's considered <em>'unfeasible if not impossible'</em> that they could ever decrypt it.</li></ul><p><a href="https://tarsnap.com" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">tarsnap.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
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FandaSin<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kkarhan</span></a></span> </p><p>Thanks for the links.<br>I haven't expected there would be ANY multi protocol tool, you proved me wrong.👍</p><p>* I think <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/toxic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>toxic</span></a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/LockIn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LockIn</span></a> is the main reason corporations design their shite to be <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/closed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>closed</span></a>, <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>! </p><p>Yes, I would say so too.🤬</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.linux.pizza/@FandaSin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>FandaSin</span></a></span> Obviously that is kinda expected.</p><ul><li>But then again this problem also exists for Tools like HootSuite and NUVI that are used by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/corporations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>corporations</span></a> to do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CustomerService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CustomerService</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SocialMediaManagment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SocialMediaManagment</span></a> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CorporateSocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CorporateSocialMedia</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitter</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSAbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NSAbook</span></a>. </li></ul><p>I don't expect a single developer with no money and time to maintain this, but at least see some professional option for that.</p><ul><li>I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toxic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>toxic</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LockIn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LockIn</span></a> is the main reason corporations design their shite to be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/closed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>closed</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>! </li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862635509691979" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1148626</span><span class="invisible">35509691979</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>One thing that really pisses me off personally is the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/regression" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>regression</span></a> in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Messenger</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apps</span></a>. </p><p>My personal distaste and dislike for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/services" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>services</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">¹</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114865723904157014" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">²</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114873895410403238" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">³</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Slack</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a>, etc. aside: </p><ul><li><p><em>WHY</em> is there no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CrossProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CrossProvider</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Messenger</span></a> to handle that shite?</p></li><li><p><em>WHY</em> does everyone of these shitty providers think people want to download their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bloated" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bloated</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebApp</span></a> that takes up triple digit Megabytes if not entire Gigabytes and will gobble up all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RAM</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CPU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CPU</span></a> each of them can??</p></li></ul><p>This problem ain't new and <em>already got <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862619013462466" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">solved for corporate social media</a> ages ago!</em> (Not to mention actually good messengers!) </p><ul><li><p>And no, <a href="https://toots.ch/@dalai/114862754556459439" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">bridges</a> <em><a href="https://swecyb.com/@troed/114862774972645542" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">don't</a> count</em>! </p></li><li><p>I mean <code>API 0</code> - <a href="https://digipres.club/@foone/112685423773959519" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">style</a> access because obviously <a href="https://digipres.club/@foone/112685414638522984" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">none of the platforms</a> will <em>allow, endorse or support such an endeavour</em> and <a href="https://digipres.club/@foone/112685441496803574" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>actively fight the developers and users</em></a> !</p></li></ul><p>So yeah, consider this a call for a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@pidgin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>pidgin</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pidgin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pidgin</span></a> <em>for garbage platforms!</em></p><ul><li><p>Cuz back in the day we had <em>way worse messengers</em> yet people actually made <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AIM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MSN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MSN</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/QQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>QQ</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> work just fine from one single <em>"phat" client</em>!</p></li><li><p>Can we please get that back?</p></li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/api0" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>api0</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@photovince" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>photovince</span></a></span> anyone who doesn't trust a.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solution that demands <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> for no valid reason like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> does!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@artfulmodder" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>artfulmodder</span></a></span> last time I checked <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> still demanded <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> in.the form of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a>, still peddled the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> and didn't move out of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfacist</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> despite <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> being nothing new!</p><ul><li>Not to mention <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> is both able and willing to discriminate against users based off said PII. Just because they do it for <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sanctions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sanctions</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Compliance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Compliance</span></a>"</em> diesn't mean they ain't gonna change that nor that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> (or anyone else at Signal) could be bribed or threatened to do so.</li></ul><p>They are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> and are thus a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SinglePointOfFailure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SinglePointOfFailure</span></a> per design!</p><ul><li>Unlike <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> (which is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME in a different UI) or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> (which you can use via <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> and connect to a Server that is an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>.</li></ul><p>IMHO <em>"memory tagging"</em> is the least of Signal's problems. To me they stench <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ControlledOpposition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ControlledOpposition</span></a>"</em> just as hard as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> and <em>incompetence</em> as hard as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@threemaapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>threemaapp</span></a></span> don't buy <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> either! </p><ul><li>Use only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/secure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>secure</span></a> = <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenStandards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenStandards</span></a> that hare <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a>, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@mit_scharf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mit_scharf</span></a></span> the problem with <em>"threat scenarios"</em> is that they tend to change quickly, non-consensual and without warning.</p><ul><li>Demanding any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> [even by virtue of being correlateable through circumstances] to be able to use a service is inherently bad, espechally since there is no <em>"legitimate interest"</em> for that.</li></ul><p><em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a>" is the illicit activity!</em> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> acts as a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_(politics)#Controlled_opposition" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">controlled opposition</a> by virtue of being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> "solution" that subjects itself to a juristiction that has 0 <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> laws and only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacism</span></a> (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> ) to boot...</p><ul><li>I find it more fatiguing and also expensive to try to workaround shite than to migrate folks to secure standards because that's a one-time investment that I'm willing to take vs. having to jump through hoops and paywalls to acquire a working <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> (or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a>) anonymously and maintaining it.</li></ul><p>It's just not in the cards TBH!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@martinsteiger" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>martinsteiger</span></a></span> Welche?</p><p>Weil ich sehe nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> in Benutzung...</p><p>Aber vielleicht sind jene Personen naiv genug <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|en <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Lösungen auf den Leim zu gehen?</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114701389295661772" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1147013</span><span class="invisible">89295661772</span></a><br>infosec.space/@kkarhan/114697690127511140</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@pascal_f" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>pascal_f</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.net2o.de/@forthy42" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>forthy42</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bonn.social/@ulrichkelber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ulrichkelber</span></a></span> </p><p>Eben! Ich betrachte es ferner als naiv angesichts <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>, Anbietern proprietärer <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>-"Lösungen" wie <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> das vertrauen zu schenken!</p><ul><li>Und wenn das bedeutet dass Leute <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Windows11</span></a> & Co. rausschmeißen dann ist dem so.</li></ul><p>Gerade weil <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> zusammenhängen und nur zusammen funktionieren...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@derekmorr" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>derekmorr</span></a></span> </p><blockquote><p>Let it go, already. No one uses MobileCoin. You can’t even find an exchange to buy it.</p></blockquote><p>Then why does <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> still have that shit in it? <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> could've pulled that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> yet refuses to do do!</p><blockquote><p>The Cloud Act is a non-issue. Signal doesn’t have data on users, so they can’t be forced to disclose it.</p></blockquote><p>That's literally wrong!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> not only collects <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> in the form of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumher</span></a> but explicitly is <em>able and willing</em> to use that to dsicriminate against users and restrict app functionality based off their presumed juristiction. There is no <em>"legitimate interest"</em> for.doing so nor any legal mandate to do so (unless we excuse the ehole <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a>!)</li></ul><blockquote><p>It’s been 30 years, and no one uses xmpp. Let it go.</p></blockquote><p>Wrong again. Otherwise there wouldn't be thriving ecosystems and Apps to this day. It's just that corporate shills refuse to acknowledge that Signal - like all centralized, proprietary, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> kessengers before and after - will inevitably die as their business model is not sustainable. Sake with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a> really. The only exceptions are those that abolish <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/profit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>profit</span></a>, integrate <em>actually working payments</em> or sellout to a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacist</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/government" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>government</span></a> (all those apply to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WeChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WeChat</span></a>!)</p><blockquote><p>It’s shocking that people who claim to care about security and privacy push niche apps with terrible UX and no PFS like Delta or XMPP instead of the only private messenger with any real market share, Signal.</p></blockquote><p>You know what's shocking to me: People who are unable or rather unwilling.to acknowledge that Signal is garbage and it's requirement for a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> kills any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> benefits it may have on paper by virtue of being at best pseudonymous (assuming the userd don't live in a juristiction that demands <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a>"</em> for even prepaid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> cards (ime. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a>) or god forbid even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a>|s (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Turkey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Turkey</span></a> has a literal allowlist that'll kick any device off it's MNOs after 90 days within 365 days.</p><ul><li>The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UScentric" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UScentric</span></a> approach to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/threats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>threats</span></a> makes Signal absolutely useless in many cases, and I do speak here from experience. </li></ul><p>I'd rather help people onboard <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> and/or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> & <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> (incl. setting them up with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Orbot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Orbot</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TorBrowserBundle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TorBrowserBundle</span></a> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tails_live</span></a></span> so their traffic gets through <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> and doesn't provide any useable IP addresses. </p><ul><li><em>I've literally been there and done that!</em></li></ul><p>As for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sustainability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sustainability</span></a>, providers like <a href="https://monocles.eu" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">monocles.eu</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> finance themselves by subscriptions (starting at €2 p.m.) which people can pay <em>fully anonymous</em> using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CashByMail</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> on top of common payment methods (i.e. SEPA wire transfer)...</p><ul><li>So even if you think <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>honeypot</span></a>"</em> that is mitigateable ciz unlike with Signal you can <em>choose your own client, choose a different provider & exervise self-custody of all tue keys!</em></li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gaysex.cloud/@sodiboo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>sodiboo</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://possum.city/@tauon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tauon</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://transfem.social/@puppygirlhornypost2" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>puppygirlhornypost2</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://possum.city/@silly" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>silly</span></a></span> I don't think it's much of a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/freedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>freedom</span></a>"</em> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>iOS</span></a> but rather that the few devices and OS versions in circulation, alongside everyone from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/jailbreaker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>jailbreaker</span></a> to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/malware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>malware</span></a> (espechally <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>govware</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>developers</span></a>) want to crack it open result in way more personnel <em>and</em> money behind it.</p><ul><li>OFC the fact that the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> experience is worse from that POV is the lack of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/regulation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>regulation</span></a> re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/repairability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>repairability</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/openness" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openness</span></a> that would make shit work. Most cheap <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/phones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>phones</span></a> are done with even cheaper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SoC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SoC</span></a>'s by manufacturers who can't be assed (or frankly don't give a shit at all!) when it comes to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mainline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mainline</span></a> support. (I mean, you've seen the video where <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@SexyCyborg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>SexyCyborg</span></a></span> demanded a vendor to give her the sourcecode as per <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2</span></a> for her device?)</li></ul><p>Granted <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>GrapheneOS</span></a></span> does limit their support to devices that can comply with their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a> standards.</p><ul><li>The issues are mostly caused by <em>hostile app developers</em> that specifically decided to <em>knee-jerk</em> their users / customers for no good reason.</li></ul><p>I do wish for both vendors like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fairphone</span></a> to up their game <em>and</em> regulators like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>EUCommission</span></a></span> to actually push for more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/transparency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>transparency</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/openness" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openness</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LongTermSupport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LongTermSupport</span></a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Smartphones</span></a>, because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ManufacturedEwaste" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ManufacturedEwaste</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SOYES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SOYES</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WiKo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WiKo</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Unihertz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Unihertz</span></a> and others that ship <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/outdated" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>outdated</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AndroidDevices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AndroidDevices</span></a> <em>and</em> never even a <em>single update</em> are a major problem!</p><ul><li>I don't blame projects like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@LineageOS" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>LineageOS</span></a></span> that they can't cover <em>every device & SoC</em> even tho they propably have the widest compatibility, I just think that there needs to be <em>pressure</em> that manufacturers don't just vomit stuff on the market and let customers frustratingly figure out the rest.</li></ul><p>I do have to give <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a> credit where it is due, and that is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>iOS</span></a> does have consistency and accessibility nailed down very well. Something that they obviously are able being the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BenevolentDictator" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BenevolentDictator</span></a>"</em> of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - platform. </p><ul><li>Obviously since they are the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/vendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>vendor</span></a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hardware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hardware</span></a> and the sole [<em>"legitimate"</em> / <em>official</em>] <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/distributor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>distributor</span></a> for any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apps</span></a> they do OFC cross-finance their relatively long <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/support" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>support</span></a> with their 15-30% cut from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sales" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sales</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InAppPurchase" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InAppPurchase</span></a>|s they charge, which is why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AndroidPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AndroidPhones</span></a> suffer the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3DO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3DO</span></a> syndrome"</em>: Needing to charge more since they only get to make money once with hardware sales and not after that, so there's no incentive for them to give a shit beyond <em>"brand value"</em> to care. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Google</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Samsing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Samsing</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fairphone</span></a> and very few others do, but most don't as they close the books on the product once launched and sold out (<em>angrily stares at Unihertz</em>)...</li></ul><p>Maybe one day the folks at <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> acquire Fairphone and decide to bring the same modularity to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Smartphones</span></a> and get something done that makes it easy to maintain long-term and that even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GrapheneOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GrapheneOS</span></a> are willing to support.</p><ul><li>Until then the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> is ruining everything as usual...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> da widerspreche ich vehement.</p><p>Es gibt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|e <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Silos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Silos</span></a> welche qua <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>-Aufbau als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InformationBlackhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InformationBlackhole</span></a> agieren (u.a. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Session" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Session</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>discord</span></a>, …)</p><p>und es gibt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OffeneStandards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OffeneStandards</span></a> die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wahlfreiheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wahlfreiheit</span></a> zwischen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Clients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Clients</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Plattformen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Plattformen</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Servern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Servern</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Providern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Providern</span></a> ermöglichen (u.a. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RocketChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RocketChat</span></a>, ...) und <em>echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> <em>aller Schlüssel</em> ermöglichen (u.a. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME)...</p><p>Natürlich steht es Menschen frei irgendeinen großen, zentralisierten Anbieter zu nutzen, nur wird dieser am ehesten zur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> neigen und mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummern</span></a> entsprechende Begierlichkeiten wecken!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@my_millennium" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>my_millennium</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@dbrgn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dbrgn</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> Ist trotzdem <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>) und damit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a> und untauglich, weil gegen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KeckhoffsPrinzip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KeckhoffsPrinzip</span></a> und grundlegende <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> verstoßend!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://darmstadt.social/@stormii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>stormii</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hear-me.social/@debby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>debby</span></a></span> okay.</p><p>Still a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> service that <a href="http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/post/2077a6d441154a89bbb4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">snitches on users</a> if it ain't <em>yet another <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Honeypot</span></a></em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hear-me.social/@debby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>debby</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> (+OMEMO = <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a>) & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a>) are the better options. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NextcloudTalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NextcloudTalk</span></a> also exist and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> as well as <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@Stuxhost" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Stuxhost</span></a></span> offer that.</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Session" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Session</span></a> are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solutions!</p></li><li><p>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> is just a shittier <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>. Give <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> a try instead.</p></li></ul><p>OfC <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> are also great!</p><p><a href="https://webcall.timur.mobi" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">webcall.timur.mobi</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tweesecake.social/@adisonverlice" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>adisonverlice</span></a></span> I think that's dangerous disinfo as <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> actively works against attempts to fingerprint and track <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> users.</p><ul><li>I do consider Tor more private than any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a> simply becaise they can neither ban users nor identify them.</li></ul><p>In fact, Tor has been designed with the explicit goal to circumvent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firewalls" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firewalls</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InternetCensorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InternetCensorship</span></a> methods like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeepApcketInspection" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeepApcketInspection</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Which is why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionShare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionShare</span></a> by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@micahflee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>micahflee</span></a></span> works so great!</li></ul><p>As a matter of principle I'd never vouch for any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solution of any kind, including <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Session" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Session</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Tor is sufficiently decentralized in that it is not only completely <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> but has proven to not have SPOFs in the form of maintainers and is able to <em>yeet</em> proplematic folks (unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WikiLeaks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WikiLeaks</span></a>!)…</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tweesecake.social/@adisonverlice" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>adisonverlice</span></a></span> it's not just re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Governments" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Governments</span></a> (tho <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Project2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Project2025</span></a> explicitly endorses unsactioned comms to twart attempts at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FIOA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FIOA</span></a> or any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accountability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>accountability</span></a> for that matter), but individuals or any organization:</p><ul><li>If a system is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a> as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>, it's inherently vulnerable.</li></ul><p>And if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> got pwned, who's gonna guarantee <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> won't if it's actually secure or isn't an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InsideJob" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InsideJob</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>.</p><p>After all, both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>'s Organization and key people like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> are known to the authorities by more than just their legal name.</p><ul><li>What's gonna prevent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> from doing a <em>"bag&drag"</em> on her or getting his goons to put a gun on,the developers' heads and force them to,<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/d0x" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>d0x</span></a> all users and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/backdoor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>backdoor</span></a> everything (if they didn't already got forced to have some <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LafwulInterception" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LafwulInterception</span></a>"</em> gear in a closet like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Room641A" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Room641A</span></a>... </li></ul><p>After all, Signal <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220112020000/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">can't pull the 5th</a> and refuse to comply!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@bob_zim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bob_zim</span></a></span> yeah. Seen it. in the writeup by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@micahflee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>micahflee</span></a></span> ...</p><p>I just hope to find any that ain't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a>'d / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a>'d to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verizon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Verizon</span></a> and that these support more than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LTE</span></a> bands... </p><ul><li>Not shure if it needs a valid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> or just an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICCID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ICCID</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ki" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ki</span></a> on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> to get going (cuz in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> it's hard [imported <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a>] to illegal [domestic SIMs] to get an anonymous SIM since 07/2017.</li></ul><p>I just wish <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@eff" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>eff</span></a></span> wouldn't expect everyone to use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> services like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> in the age of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>, cuz neither I nor anyone I'd trust would submit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> to them like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumer</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">as a matter of principle!</a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> no it's not.</p><ul><li>Otherwise <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OrganizedCrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OrganizedCrime</span></a> would choose <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> so hard, you'd be shutdown within weeks by the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FBI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FBI</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> would be forced to <em>"pull a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LavaBit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LavaBit</span></a>"</em> and face jailtime for obstruction of justice or snitch on users! </li></ul><p>Being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solution subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> makes you inherently vulnerable <em>by your own choice</em> and thus trivial to shutdown compared to <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys and true <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME [see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> et. al.] and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> [see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> et. al.]!)</p><ul><li>Plus neither of those <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">shill</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scams</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">like</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>! </li></ul><p>And don't even get me started on you collecting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (espechally <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a>) <em>for no valid reason</em>, (thus violating <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>)...</p><ul><li>Not to mention relying ob <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/charity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>charity</span></a> and being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> isn't sustainable to begin with!</li></ul><p>But yeah, I'll be patient to shout <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToldYaSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ToldYaSo</span></a>"</em> to your annoying cult of fanboys!</p>
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