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NOWNOWNOW<p><span>What if…<br><br>As far as comprehension and accuracy is concerned, we use a sophisticated LLM to do something like chain of thought but in doing so we also have it translate both the initial prompt and the CoT from (eg) English into a diverse range of other languages<br><br>All this is with the aim of retrying the result using different language prompts in an ongoing way, analyse the agreement or spread of the results, as a guide to likely accuracy.<br><br>Because, it could well be that if you give a prompt in English, you get a quite different result from an otherwise equivalent prompt in French, the Gaelics, Maltese, Chinese, Russian, Hungarian, Japanese, Mongolian and so many more, etc. Is one language “better” than another for prompting? It may be that on a contingency level, ie, per individual prompt, the LLM “understands” it differently per language –&nbsp;obviously it won’t be completely different but there may be subtle shifts in the task and reward, enough to make a difference to accuracy or depth. Creating a wide array of alternative choices at each step of the CoT may improve the situation by a sort of “voting/sampling” stage to choose the best result before moving forward.<br><br>It'd be vaguely like Sapir-Whorf hypothesis to gain a higher requisite variety of tokenisation richness.<br><br> </span><a href="https://toot.pikopublish.ing/tags/LLM" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LLM</a><span> </span><a href="https://toot.pikopublish.ing/tags/AI" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a><span> </span><a href="https://toot.pikopublish.ing/tags/language" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#language</a><span> </span><a href="https://toot.pikopublish.ing/tags/SapirWhorf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SapirWhorf</a><span> </span><a href="https://toot.pikopublish.ing/tags/CoT" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CoT</a></p>
Mx Verda<p><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonathan-wonderlang/wonder-language-the-quest-for-language-mastery/posts/4259093" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">kickstarter.com/projects/jonat</span><span class="invisible">han-wonderlang/wonder-language-the-quest-for-language-mastery/posts/4259093</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/lang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lang</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/language" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>language</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/learn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>learn</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/learning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>learning</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/linguist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linguist</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/linguistic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linguistic</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/linguistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linguistics</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/duolingo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>duolingo</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/translate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>translate</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/translation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>translation</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/interpret" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>interpret</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/interpretation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>interpretation</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/comms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>comms</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/communication" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>communication</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/game" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>game</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/gaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gaming</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/gamer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gamer</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/videoGame" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>videoGame</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/videoGames" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>videoGames</span></a> <a href="https://lgbtqia.space/tags/SapirWhorf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SapirWhorf</span></a></p>
Janet Logan (she/her) 🏳️‍⚧️<p>Do You See Blue or Green? </p><p><a href="https://janetannelogan.com/2024/09/17/do-you-see-blue-or-green/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">janetannelogan.com/2024/09/17/</span><span class="invisible">do-you-see-blue-or-green/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/ColorPerception" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ColorPerception</span></a>, <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Language" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Language</span></a>, <a href="https://mas.to/tags/SapirWhorf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SapirWhorf</span></a>, <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Science</span></a></p>
Nick Dunlavey<p>But that sent me wondering about whether something like PCI-DSS compliance is just a particular aspect of "security". <br>I'm thinking that both safety and security are denoted by the same word in for example German (sicherheit), that led me down a Sapir-Whorf meander <br><a href="https://mas.to/tags/SapirWhorf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SapirWhorf</span></a></p>
Mike Tassano<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://spacey.space/@nyrath" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nyrath</span></a></span> I believe <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/TokiPona" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TokiPona</span></a> was more a failed attempt to prove <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/sapirwhorf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sapirwhorf</span></a> , hoping that language limits would limit thoughts. No bad words = no bad thoughts. But that would mean that without language there is no thought.</p>
Jyoti Mishra<p>Thanks to <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@smellsofbikes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>smellsofbikes</span></a></span> for reminding me this little pearler exists: </p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/3MWpHQQ-wQg" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">youtu.be/3MWpHQQ-wQg</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>LANGUAGE!</p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/FryAndLaurie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FryAndLaurie</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Language" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Language</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/SapirWhorf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SapirWhorf</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Linguistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linguistics</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Philosophy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Philosophy</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IDIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IDIC</span></a></p>
Stan Carey<p>Good podcast by <span class="h-card"><a href="https://fedihum.org/@hiphilangsci" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hiphilangsci</span></a></span> on linguistic relativity and the origins of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis: <a href="https://hiphilangsci.net/2023/04/01/podcast-episode-31/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hiphilangsci.net/2023/04/01/po</span><span class="invisible">dcast-episode-31/</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/linguistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linguistics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/language" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>language</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/LinguisticRelativity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LinguisticRelativity</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/SapirWhorf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SapirWhorf</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>podcast</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/HistoryOfScience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HistoryOfScience</span></a></p>
Jo Ran🥑<p>Un día como hoy (1884), nace el antropólogo y lingüista estadounidense Edward Sapir. Su trabajo al día de hoy sigue teniendo influencia y generando debates acalorados. En especial, la hipótesis Sapir-Whorf que se le atribuye y ha sido de inspiración para la ciencia ficción (p.e. Arrival) y diversas disciplinas académicas.<br /><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/linguistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>linguistics</span></a> <br /><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/anthropology" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>anthropology</span></a> <br /><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/EdwardSapir" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>EdwardSapir</span></a><br /><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SapirWhorf" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SapirWhorf</span></a></p>
Jyoti Mishra<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.davidgarywood.com/@davidgarywood" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>davidgarywood</span></a></span> </p><p>I think it's more that if they do care about <a href="https://mas.to/tags/AIBias" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AIBias</span></a> and point it out, they tend to get fired by their techbro bosses who have a hardon for anything labelled "AI," "crypto" or "quantum."</p><p>All the -isms are in the datasets, they're just a mirror of our society. </p><p>As ever, I return to <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IainMBanks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IainMBanks</span></a> and <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Marain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Marain</span></a>, <a href="https://mas.to/tags/SapirWhorf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SapirWhorf</span></a> and <a href="https://mas.to/tags/NeoStructuralism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NeoStructuralism</span></a>.</p><p>Another world is possible. But *we* have to build it. Starting with datasets created for change.</p>
R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:<p>Never would I have imagined, while taking undergrad linguistics in 2016, that the highlight of my day would be arguing the finer points of Sapir-Whorf with a snarky Norwegian. 😂<br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/MastoLife" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastoLife</span></a><br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FediFriends" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediFriends</span></a><br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/SapirWhorf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SapirWhorf</span></a><br>(Now I really need an image of Worf holding a spear ;)<br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.linux.pizza/@sotolf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>sotolf</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@benjaminhollon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>benjaminhollon</span></a></span><br>Also tagging <span class="h-card"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@joel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>joel</span></a></span> to be annoying. ;D</p>