Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@threetails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>threetails</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://zirk.us/@ChrisMayLA6" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ChrisMayLA6</span></a></span> and the worst part is: said politicions <em>know they are lying</em>!</p><ul><li>And I don't mean <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a>"</em> but rather <em>"Saying the exact opposite of what all the data evidences"</em>!</li></ul>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@anon_opin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>anon_opin</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agrement</em></p><p>It's just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> inthe cheapest way possible...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> the nice part is that this allows <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a>. </p><ul><li>The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LED</span></a> lamp most likely is <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MadeInChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MadeInChina</span></a></em> thus the entire <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CarbonEmissions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CarbonEmissions</span></a> for it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/production" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>production</span></a> get accounted for in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a> and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> can pat itself on the back for reducing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CarbonEmissions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CarbonEmissions</span></a>. </li></ul><p>Nevermind the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ReducedLifecycle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReducedLifecycle</span></a> and the entire production chain can never offset such a high failure rate, but those don't show up on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyBills" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyBills</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PowerMeters" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PowerMeters</span></a> and the like...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://corteximplant.com/@mircoxi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mircoxi</span></a></span> it should not be a fineable offense, because a fine means it's only illegal for small/<em>"poor"</em> corporations.</p><ul><li>This should be a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/felony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>felony</span></a> akin to false <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accounting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>accounting</span></a> statements, since they are done for the same reason: <em>'<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a>'</em> aka. <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LineGoesUp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LineGoesUp</span></a>"</em>!</li></ul><p>It's the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HR</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qC1YGRMKI&t=3m39m" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">equivalent</a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MarkToMarketAccounting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MarkToMarketAccounting</span></a>...</p><ul><li>They should be obligated to fill an advertised vacancy and evidence it!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fediscience.org/@petersuber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>petersuber</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/openscience" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>openscience</span></a></span> +1</p><p>I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/reproduceability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>reproduceability</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenData" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenData</span></a> should be mandatory <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/transparency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>transparency</span></a> in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>science</span></a>, discouraging <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a>"</em> and encouraging a healthy discussion re: data sources as well...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@fennix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fennix</span></a></span> on paper they can only do that by economies if scale and streamlined logistics as they like a small crocery buy from the same B2B wholesalers.</p><ul><li>But I do share the same scepticism considering that they individually wrap portion ingredients and thus destroy some scalability advantages.</li></ul><p>In the end ist's convenient numbers' shuffling aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> by omnission and sewed data.</p><ul><li>I think if they focussed on the <em>"eat healthier"</em> and <em>'learn cooking basics'</em> part they'd get a far more <em>honest</em> advertising campaign, because that is something they can be objectively way better.</li></ul><p>Also the <em>"carbon-friendlyness"</em> is something with absurdly diverging data for comparison: Shure if people drive a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SuperUselessVehicle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SuperUselessVehicle</span></a> like an F-350 RAM 3500 just to get a bag of toast and milk, even a Parcel Delivery with a Model T using leaded fuel is emitting less <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CO2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CO2</span></a> but if you have their target audience of above-average income city center yuppies that may not even own a car and most likely just a bike if not shop on foot or public transport or a big family buying food in bulk for 2 weeks at a time, this while marketing may become questionable.</p><ul><li>Shure they'll still beat a delivery driver for takeout with an old compact car but they specifically want to say they're <em>'better than grocery shopping'</em> which I'd put into question by my own, I'd say normal grocery buying patterns.</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@markuswerle" class="u-url mention">@<span>markuswerle</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://plush.city/@fluffy" class="u-url mention">@<span>fluffy</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wandering.shop/@charliejane" class="u-url mention">@<span>charliejane</span></a></span> yeah, it's more like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Lobbyism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Lobbyism</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a>...<br /><a href="https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/111602804670458161" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mstdn.social/@kkarhan/11160280</span><span class="invisible">4670458161</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://plush.city/@fluffy" class="u-url mention">@<span>fluffy</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wandering.shop/@charliejane" class="u-url mention">@<span>charliejane</span></a></span> that's almost as absurd as a (luckily only German, not EU standard) that takes fuel consumption and divides it minimum gross weight:</p><p>Resulting in the Leopard 2 being the most efficient domestic made vehicle in spite of guzzling 200l/100km of B7 Diesel, but at a weight of 62.000kg it's fuel coefficency is <0,0033 compared to an Audi A4 @ 10l/100km ROZ95E5 Gasoline & 2.000kg's = 0,0050...</p><p>In the end it's only <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Lobbyism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Lobbyism</span></a> (see <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ChickenTax" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>ChickenTax</span></a>)...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://zeroes.ca/@maleve" class="u-url mention">@<span>maleve</span></a></span> that's called <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> - something everyone in <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Math" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Math</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Biology" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Biology</span></a> Class learns...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mk.absturztau.be/@enigmatico" class="u-url mention">@<span>enigmatico</span></a></span> wasn't there a book titled "<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a>" that showcased that shit?</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@yogthos" class="u-url mention">@<span>yogthos</span></a></span> Since there is no <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PressFreedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>PressFreedom</span></a>, there's no way to independently verify said figures.</p><p>Also OFC if people earned $0,10 an hour 25 years ago and now $0,40 that's OFC a major increase and gets above the arbitrary absolute powerty line...</p><p>See I too can do <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> ...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@yogthos" class="u-url mention">@<span>yogthos</span></a></span> So does every nation to some extent.</p><p>Granted if you know me and my opinions [I don't expect you to have checked out my entire feed] you'd know that I think <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/HumanRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>HumanRights</span></a> are not negotiable.</p><p>Basics like housing, food, water, freedom of movement, ban of forced labour, right to defend oneself and one's mutuals, etc.</p><p>I don't deny said ties - that would be foolish.</p><p>I just think that by every metric and skew <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Taiwan" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Taiwan</span></a> is freer than the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>PRC</span></a>... </p><p>Everything else would be <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@SwiftOnSecurity" class="u-url mention">@<span>SwiftOnSecurity</span></a></span> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>programming</span></a> is <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/creative" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>creative</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/intellectual" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>intellectual</span></a> labour.</p><p>Measuring a programmer's efficiency or value with easy <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/metrics" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>metrics</span></a> like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LinesOfCode" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LinesOfCode</span></a> (<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/IBM" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>IBM</span></a>) or <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Commits" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Commits</span></a> (<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Huawei" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Huawei</span></a>) doesn't work.</p><p>In fact the latter ones did that <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> for <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/KPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>KPI</span></a> so hard on the <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@linux" class="u-url mention">@<span>linux</span></a></span> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Kernel" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Kernel</span></a> that they were close to getting <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/banned" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>banned</span></a> from the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LKML" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LKML</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/git" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>git</span></a>.</p><p>Instead they got called out that their "code cleanup" commits are not appreciated as code <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/readability" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>readability</span></a> is being a priority in <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Linux</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://enlightened.army/@mpoletiek" class="u-url mention">@<span>mpoletiek</span></a></span> would still not be <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/CarbonNegative" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>CarbonNegative</span></a> but simply offset <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Renewables" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Renewables</span></a>, like outsorcing production to overseas (i.e. "P.R." <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>China</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/India" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>India</span></a>) just to reduce domestic industrial emissions...</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hoosier.social/@NefariousAryq" class="u-url mention">@<span>NefariousAryq</span></a></span> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> works well in <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Politricks" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Politricks</span></a>, because if <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Cops" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Cops</span></a> want to find a reason to bust someone, they'll make one up on the spot.</p><p>Like dropping some stuff in someone's car or toilet or trashcan to justify jailing someone.</p><p>It's not as if cops can't get their hands on criminalized merchanise to make up a victimless crime and brutalize someone!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fediscience.org/@steve" class="u-url mention">@<span>steve</span></a></span> It's <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> because one can literally buy "<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/CO2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>CO2</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Neutrality" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Neutrality</span></a>" with products.</p><p>The product didn't get more envoirmentally, but one can just literally buy an Indulgence instead.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@crookedfootball" class="u-url mention">@<span>crookedfootball</span></a></span> that's how <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> works, I guess...</p><p>It's like the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/HDI" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>HDI</span></a> prioritizing <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LiteracyRate" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LiteracyRate</span></a> over <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/CivilRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>CivilRights</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/HumanRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>HumanRights</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://journa.host/@juddlegum" class="u-url mention">@<span>juddlegum</span></a></span> also it ignores the fact that marginalized communities will be policed tougher and every case where a white cop feels "threatened" to draw a gun also falls under it.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> is something one learns in 11th grade math, history and biology classes.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://masto.ai/@parkermolloy" class="u-url mention">@<span>parkermolloy</span></a></span> Yeah...</p><p>I suspect <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithCharts" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithCharts</span></a> is like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> and by selectively choosing questions and answers the desired outcome is achieveable...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://laserdisc.party/@radicalrobit" class="u-url mention">@<span>radicalrobit</span></a></span> this ain't <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LyingWithNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LyingWithNumbers</span></a> but blatant bullshitting.</p><p>If I were to make such graphs, teachers would've given me an F- under it, telling me to stop insulting them and take subjects serious!</p>
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