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Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://universeodon.com/@Nazani" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Nazani</span></a></span> </p><p>&gt;&gt; Perhaps the obsession with sacred <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/martyrdom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>martyrdom</span></a> precludes "what if we end up worse off" reflection.</p><p>Yes, exactly! As the author of the original essay wrote:</p><p>"A people on the cusp of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/liberation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>liberation</span></a> instead suffered war deaths and the moral rot caused by the veneration of suicide and murder."</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/VenerationOfSuicide" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VenerationOfSuicide</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/InTheirName" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InTheirName</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestine</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Israel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Israel</span></a>.</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tattered" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Tattered</span></a></span></p><p>&gt;&gt; <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Freedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Freedom</span></a> that is rewriting school textbooks to erase ideas incompatible with Hindutva? As soon as you accept a few million deaths for a better world, you have become a monster.</p><p>You have pivoted away from whether accepting a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TwoStateSolution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TwoStateSolution</span></a> proposed by <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/UN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UN</span></a> for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BritishIndia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BritishIndia</span></a> as well as for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BritishMandate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BritishMandate</span></a> in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestine</span></a> was better for all.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hindutva" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Hindutva</span></a> is a different monster.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> is <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/worthReading" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>worthReading</span></a> if you haven't read it already ➡️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441485737099304" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/1</span><span class="invisible">12441485737099304</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@badrihippo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>badrihippo</span></a></span></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ Time to boost 🧵 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> again… <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WorthReading" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WorthReading</span></a></p><p>Hard to miss the sudden and magical end to the conflict as <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Biden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Biden</span></a> retires.</p><p>Noting that correlation ≠ causation, I posit that the conflict was contrived for a specific objective, that objective was achieved, and like <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a>, it was NOT dreamt up in consultation with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinians" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinians</span></a>, nor had <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinian</span></a> interest in mind.</p><p>Once again, ecstasy will subside, amnesia will set in, and Palestinians will let others fight <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/inTheirName" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>inTheirName</span></a></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Skyye" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Skyye</span></a></span></p><p>&gt;&gt; Bullshit. A quick google shows: Israel gained some territory formerly granted to Palestinian Arabs under the United Nations resolution in 1947. A map showing progression of Israel controlled land shows Israel steadily gaining almost the entire area.</p><p>It's not "bullshit".</p><p>I'm going to be a bit more patient and tolerant because you seem uninformed, not a hostile troll.</p><p>Do you know WHEN <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Israel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Israel</span></a> gained that territory and what happened between 1947 and THEN? See <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> 🙂</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@karlggestd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>karlggestd</span></a></span> </p><p>&gt;&gt; it is no surprise that…</p><p>You didn't get the memo? 😂 </p><p>&gt;&gt; …we have taken the side of the first Nazi government at the first opportunity. But apparently it doesn't matter what the members of that government themselves say. You have chosen to look the other way. Like so many others in the last century.</p><p>You have amnesia. See <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> </p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@GottaLaff" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>GottaLaff</span></a></span></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Catawu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Catawu</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@mcnado" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mcnado</span></a></span></p><p>&gt;&gt; I think you’re being sealioned by someone conveniently skipping over past &amp; current history of Israel’s illegal occupation of Gaza.</p><p>See the many posts and long threads on my timeline regarding the conflict in the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MiddleEast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MiddleEast</span></a>, many of which are readily accessible through hashtags in my profile.</p><p>One of the best is <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a>, based on a 3rd party essay that will keep you from "conveniently skipping over past &amp; current history of Israel’s illegal occupation of Gaza."</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://vmst.io/@ajaykaul10" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ajaykaul10</span></a></span> </p><p>Yes, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Nasser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nasser</span></a> was not just opposed to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Israel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Israel</span></a>, he was ecstatic too.</p><p>See the hashtag <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> in which I summarized a very well researched essay by <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ShanyMor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ShanyMor</span></a> on the situation in the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MiddleEast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MiddleEast</span></a>. </p><p>That essay is scholarly and somewhat long, but there is a link to the archived version of the full original essay in the thread itself.</p><p>The summary thread starts ➡️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441485737099304" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/1</span><span class="invisible">12441485737099304</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ekis" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ekis</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Properganda" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Properganda</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@tartley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tartley</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://dice.camp/@Lane" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Lane</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@chiclet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>chiclet</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@GatekeepKen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>GatekeepKen</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.acm.org/@nikatjef" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nikatjef</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Grant_M" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Grant_M</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sfba.social/@CivilityFan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>CivilityFan</span></a></span></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ArenaCops" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ArenaCops</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@AxiosNews" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>AxiosNews</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@axiosnews/axios-1ijujvslz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>axios-AxiosNews</span></a></span> </p><p>This is as good a time as any to re-up the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gaza" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gaza</span></a> thread ➡️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441485737099304" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/1</span><span class="invisible">12441485737099304</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinians" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinians</span></a> need to learn their true history, not just what <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Hamas</span></a>-simps at UNRWA schools teach them, and as you pointed out, they need serious self-reflection on top of that</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GazaStrip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GazaStrip</span></a> </p><p>It’s remarkable that since US media kicked up a shitstorm over <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Biden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Biden</span></a>’s age (and only Biden’s age), the calls for Biden to step aside BECAUSE of alleged <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/genocide" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>genocide</span></a> in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gaza" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gaza</span></a> have virtually disappeared, even though war rages all the same in the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MiddleEast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MiddleEast</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinians" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinians</span></a> are once again being displaced. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Ecstasy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ecstasy</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Amnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Amnesia</span></a> indeed.</p><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-07-10-2024-6358a61735f0e30132decce781860594" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">apnews.com/article/israel-pale</span><span class="invisible">stinians-hamas-war-news-07-10-2024-6358a61735f0e30132decce781860594</span></a></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GazaStrip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GazaStrip</span></a> </p><p>"Jews would not have continued to come" implies <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Jews</span></a> came to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestine</span></a></p><p>That does not negate the fact that Jews also had a continuous presence on the land since pre-Biblical times</p><p>That also does not negate the fact that many were forcibly driven away at multiple times from wherever they settled ➡️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/1</span><span class="invisible">11494007586354401</span></a></p><p>That also needs to be squared with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HamasCharter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HamasCharter</span></a> asserting rights of displaced <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinians" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinians</span></a> to return but denying displaced Jews the same</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GazaStrip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GazaStrip</span></a></p><p>On <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/amnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>amnesia</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/antisemitism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>antisemitism</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bigotry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bigotry</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/victimBlaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>victimBlaming</span></a>, and the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Russian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Russian</span></a>-seeded narrative of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IsraeliApartheid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IsraeliApartheid</span></a>… </p><p>Yes, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Russia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Russia</span></a>, where virulent antisemitism has been documented forever, is where the contrived notion of "Israeli Apartheid" originated.</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@janisf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>janisf</span></a></span></p><p>&gt;&gt; 1 side always accuses other side of forgetting other's pain.</p><p>Do you acknowledge that <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Israel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Israel</span></a> acted in defense, and people have amnesia about <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Hamas</span></a> launching <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Oct7" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oct7</span></a>?</p><p>&gt;&gt; We need to figure out a way forward</p><p>Yes</p><p>&gt;&gt; which means we need to first understand the pain</p><p>Yes, but even before that, we need to understand what caused it in the first place.</p><p>I read the piece you linked. Would you read <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a>? Start here ➡️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441485737099304" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/1</span><span class="invisible">12441485737099304</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@DarkMatterZine" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>DarkMatterZine</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://agora.echelon.pl/users/kravietz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kravietz</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@Nochem" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Nochem</span></a></span></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@DarkMatterZine" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>DarkMatterZine</span></a></span> You have forgotten about <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Hamas</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Oct7" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oct7</span></a>, haven't you.</p><p>That is such quick amnesia, and it ALWAYS follows after every terrorist attack and war started by Hamas and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinian</span></a> factions</p><p>It is people like you who give them succor by forgetting who started a conflict and blaming <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Israel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Israel</span></a> for defending itself.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://agora.echelon.pl/users/kravietz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kravietz</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@Nochem" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Nochem</span></a></span></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@notwithstanding" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>notwithstanding</span></a></span> </p><p>Thanks for sharing <a href="https://nationalpost.com/opinion/opinion-we-are-anishinaabe-zionists-hateful-anti-israel-camps-disrespect-our-lands" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">nationalpost.com/opinion/opini</span><span class="invisible">on-we-are-anishinaabe-zionists-hateful-anti-israel-camps-disrespect-our-lands</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IgnoraceAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IgnoraceAndAmnesia</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Colony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Colony</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/colonizer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>colonizer</span></a>, and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/colonization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>colonization</span></a> are maladroitly applied to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Israel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Israel</span></a> by people who are ignorant about the indigeneity of the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jewish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Jewish</span></a> people in the region that is Israel, or by propagandists who refuse to acknowledge that indigeneity.</p><p>Also notable: Quick <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/amnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>amnesia</span></a> about <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Hamas</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Oct7" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oct7</span></a> and acceptance of revolutionary violence “by any means necessary” again and again and again…</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@galad" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>galad</span></a></span></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://assortedflotsam.com/@Oeneus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Oeneus</span></a></span> </p><p>&gt;&gt; Some of these morons really do think <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Hamas</span></a> is just a harmless activist group. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Oct7" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oct7</span></a> simply never happened.</p><p>Yup, that's <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> and the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PalestinianPredicament" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PalestinianPredicament</span></a> in a nutshell</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@MyNewMinuteNewt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>MyNewMinuteNewt</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@enoch_exe_inc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>enoch_exe_inc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@rightardia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>rightardia</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@vgoller" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>vgoller</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://todon.nl/@prolrage" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>prolrage</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@redfrog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>redfrog</span></a></span> </p><p>&gt;&gt; All these defenses of Israel's conduct over the last decades always rely on a "might makes right" world view.</p><p>I suggest reading some real history before commenting on Israel's conduct. </p><p>Also consider <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> if you want to understand the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PalestinianPredicament" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PalestinianPredicament</span></a>. Just drowning yourself in propaganda without grounding yourself in facts just makes you look silly</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@rightardia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>rightardia</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@enoch_exe_inc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>enoch_exe_inc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@vgoller" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>vgoller</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://todon.nl/@prolrage" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>prolrage</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@redfrog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>redfrog</span></a></span></p><p>&gt;&gt; Israel has had 76 years to settle with the Palestinians</p><p>Isn’t that backwards given that:</p><p>1. In 1947 it was <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinians" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinians</span></a> who spat on the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/UN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UN</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TwoStateSolution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TwoStateSolution</span></a></p><p>2. In 1948 Palestinians let neighboring <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> states to fight a full-scale war <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/inTheirName" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>inTheirName</span></a> with Israel, and LOST</p><p>What led to 1967 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SixDayWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SixDayWar</span></a>, 1973 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/YomKippur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>YomKippur</span></a> War, 1982 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LebanonWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LebanonWar</span></a>, 2006 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SecondLebanonWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecondLebanonWar</span></a>, &amp; 2023 Israel-<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Hamas</span></a> War?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PalestinianGuilt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PalestinianGuilt</span></a></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GazaStrip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GazaStrip</span></a></p><p>AP continues to report <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Nakba" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nakba</span></a> as <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arabic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Arabic</span></a> for “<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/catastrophe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>catastrophe</span></a>” referring to the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/displacement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>displacement</span></a> of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinians" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinians</span></a> rather than <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/defeat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>defeat</span></a> of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Arabs</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FourthCatastrophe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FourthCatastrophe</span></a></p><p>This is why Palestinians never learn. Their <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/aggression" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>aggression</span></a> is ALWAYS recast as their <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/victimhood" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>victimhood</span></a>, and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Israel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Israel</span></a>’s defense is always recast as <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/occupation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>occupation</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/oppression" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>oppression</span></a> </p><p>“We lived through [displacement] not just once but several times,” says one <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinian</span></a> without any hint of irony.</p><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-05-15-2024-e9696aa2da25e447219f2be0c1926b11" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">apnews.com/article/israel-pale</span><span class="invisible">stinians-hamas-war-news-05-15-2024-e9696aa2da25e447219f2be0c1926b11</span></a></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GazaStrip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GazaStrip</span></a></p><p>&gt;&gt; In each of the 3 wars, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PalestinianCause" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PalestinianCause</span></a> was taken up in a larger global struggle 👀: first, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WorldWarII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WorldWarII</span></a>, then <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ColdWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ColdWar</span></a>, then <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/jihadist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>jihadist</span></a> war against free societies</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TimingIsNoCoincidence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TimingIsNoCoincidence</span></a> </p><p>The looming <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FourthCatastrophe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FourthCatastrophe</span></a> for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinians" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinians</span></a> is also squarely placed in a larger <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/globalStruggle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>globalStruggle</span></a>, and it is timed for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Election2024" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Election2024</span></a>.</p><p>This time it’s the rise of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/oligarchs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>oligarchs</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fascists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fascists</span></a> in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a> &amp; other liberal countries, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Russian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Russian</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/revanchism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>revanchism</span></a>, &amp; <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a>’s global ambitions.</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcstasyAndAmnesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcstasyAndAmnesia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GazaStrip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GazaStrip</span></a></p><p>A <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FourthCatastrophe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FourthCatastrophe</span></a>?<br> <br>In the last three years, there has been every sign that another catastrophe was coming.</p><p>Read the whole essay at the paywall-free link to the archive.</p><p>It also tells you where the notion of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IsraeliApartheid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IsraeliApartheid</span></a> came from and why <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TimingIsNoCoincidence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TimingIsNoCoincidence</span></a>.</p><p>The conclusion is a clincher, regardless of which side of the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Israeli" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Israeli</span></a>-<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinian</span></a> conflict you are on.</p><p>Thanks to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@toooobeeee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>toooobeeee</span></a></span> for sharing such a deeply researched and though-provoking essay!</p>