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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ard.social/@tagesschau" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tagesschau</span></a></span> das ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Geldverschwendung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geldverschwendung</span></a> denn das word nicht passieren.</p><ul><li>Dann lieber bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITER" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITER</span></a> investieren, auch wenn <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernfusion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kernfusion</span></a> unrealistischer ist als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Weltfrieden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Weltfrieden</span></a> zusammen!</li></ul><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@bmuv" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bmuv</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@Bundesregierung" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Bundesregierung</span></a></span></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://norden.social/@Moin1964" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Moin1964</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@peterjelinek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>peterjelinek</span></a></span> das sind nicht unfixbare Probleme.</p><p>Allerdings ist es illusorisch dass ebergieintensive Staaten wie Deutschland 100% regenerativ &amp; autark sein können.</p><ul><li>Ich würd's mir wünschen, bezweifle es aber.</li></ul><p>Ansonsten kann <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desertec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desertec</span></a> einfach durch extrem viel &amp; billige Energie die meisten Probleme lösen.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://norden.social/@Moin1964" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Moin1964</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@peterjelinek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>peterjelinek</span></a></span> nicht wirklich...</p><p>Eher wird das <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Energieproblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Energieproblem</span></a> mittels <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> gelöst...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@KarlHeinzHasliP" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>KarlHeinzHasliP</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodontech.de/@denki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>denki</span></a></span> Personally, I think that standardized <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/batteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>batteries</span></a> that get swapped would've been the solution to the charging speed problem.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BEV</span></a>|s are a problem and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyDensity</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Charging</span></a> problems are hard walls that can only be circumvented (i.e. swapping fluids at a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedoxFlow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RedoxFlow</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Battery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Battery</span></a>) or ignored (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCell</span></a>)...</p><ul><li>Personally, I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trolleybuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trolleybuses</span></a> are <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc&amp;t=3m45s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the best option</a> if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trams</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trains</span></a> ain't feasible (i.e. steep grates like in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solingen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Solingen</span></a>) and the few edgecases that'll never get 24/7 once per hour bus service or even an on-call minibus need to get more efficient without <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConflictMinerals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConflictMinerals</span></a> from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnfairTrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UnfairTrade</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cobalt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cobalt</span></a>) and destruction of unique habitats (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lithium</span></a>)...</li></ul><p>Solving the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyProblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyProblem</span></a> isn't a technological issue, but a political one (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a>)...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@Fischblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Fischblog</span></a></span> <em>nickt zustimmend</em> wenn ich <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AKW" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AKW</span></a>|s klassischer Bauart schon falsch finde, <em>weil seltene Schwermetalle dafür verballert werden, Wasser zum kochen zu bringen</em>, so ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernfusion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kernfusion</span></a> noch nichtmals erprobt geschweige denn ansatzweise in der Lage, Energie zu liefern die es brauchbar macht!</p><ul><li>Dagegen ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> geradezu nüchtern, vernünftig, praktikabel und ambitionslos, weil <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solarthermie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Solarthermie</span></a> nachweislich funktioniert und skalierbar ist!</li></ul>
Ryan Hite<p>Desertec: The ambitious project to power Europe with Sahara sunlight. 🌞 What went wrong, and what can we learn from its failure? Dive into the story of a dream too big to succeed. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RenewableEnergy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RenewableEnergy</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SolarPower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SolarPower</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Desertec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desertec</span></a> <a href="https://www.ryanjhite.com/2024/11/23/the-desertec-initiative-a-mega-project-that-promised-to-revolutionize-renewable-energy-and-why-it-failed/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ryanjhite.com/2024/11/23/the-d</span><span class="invisible">esertec-initiative-a-mega-project-that-promised-to-revolutionize-renewable-energy-and-why-it-failed/</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Not shure about that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NuclearFusion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NuclearFusion</span></a> theory tho...</p><p>I'd assume by 2100 we'll basically mandate buildings to be <em>"energy positive"</em> except historic buildings just out of need to have everyone supply into the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/grid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>grid</span></a>... </p><ul><li>We'll likely have more fluctuating <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyPrices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyPrices</span></a> so people will prefer to cook and do laundry at peak energy output in the lunchtime...</li></ul><p>I'd rather see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> done than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fusion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fusion</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PowerPlants" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PowerPlants</span></a> simply because of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cost</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/scalability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>scalability</span></a> reasons: A <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/solarthermal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>solarthermal</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PowerPlant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PowerPlant</span></a> is way easier to build and maintain than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NuclearEnergy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NuclearEnergy</span></a> will ever be because both are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/thermal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>thermal</span></a> and controlling <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/reactors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reactors</span></a> is more complex than <em>making just water/oil/salt "go phlooosh" through black pipes heated by sunlight off parabolic mirrors</em>...</p><ul><li>Potentially we'll see multiple giant setups in deserts around the globe if not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/offshore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>offshore</span></a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tropical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tropical</span></a> areas...</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6D_WuLWVrQ&amp;t=1953s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=C6D_WuLWVr</span><span class="invisible">Q&amp;t=1953s</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://norden.social/@tino76H" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tino76H</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.green/@hjoest" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hjoest</span></a></span> Das bestreite ich nicht, und langfristiger Ausbau ist notwenig - und damit meine ich so sehr dass nicht nur Grund und Spitzenlasten 100% regenerativ sind auch an schlechten Tagen sondern dass genug Energieüberschuss billig genug da ist um bspw. mittels elektrochemisch gewonnenem Methanol Edgecases wie Stromerzeuger sauberer zu bekommen: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a> statt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diesel</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verbrenner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verbrenner</span></a>!</p><p>Denn wenn das <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Energieproblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Energieproblem</span></a> gelöst ist lässt sich alles andere damit lösen!</p><p>Notfalls halt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> umsetzen...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://norden.social/@SpielPruefUmwelt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>SpielPruefUmwelt</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@BerlinVic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>BerlinVic</span></a></span> vorallem ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Atomkraft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Atomkraft</span></a> auch sehr finit was Ressourcen angeht.</p><p>Wir sollten auch nicht auf <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wunder" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wunder</span></a> im Sinne von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernfusion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kernfusion</span></a> hoffen, denn das steht seit 50+ Jahren auf <em>"in 20 Jahren funktionierts"</em>...</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EneruerbareEnergien" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EneruerbareEnergien</span></a> sind <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/alternativlos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>alternativlos</span></a> und eher werden wir gigantische Projekte alla <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> samt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanolwirtschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanolwirtschaft</span></a> für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Energiespeicher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Energiespeicher</span></a> &amp; -Transport sehen denn <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fusionskraftwerk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fusionskraftwerk</span></a>|e...</p><p>Davon abgesehen sind <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AKW" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AKW</span></a>`s ohne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Subventionen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Subventionen</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verstaatlichung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verstaatlichung</span></a> von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kosten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kosten</span></a> für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Beschaffung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Beschaffung</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Aufbereitung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Aufbereitung</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Endlagerung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Endlagerung</span></a> nirgendwo je gebaut worden weils nicht <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/rentabel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rentabel</span></a> sein kann!</p>
mr brown :unverified: :nona:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@phastidio" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>phastidio</span></a></span> ma d'altra parte loro 🇩🇪 sono quelli che hanno cannato i conti dell <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/energiewende" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>energiewende</span></a> : hanno spento i reattori per fare 2 <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/nordstream" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nordstream</span></a> violando le regole comunitarie e sfidando la Commissione 🇪🇺 e pure gli alleati 🇺🇸 , e per puntare sul fotovoltaico Made in Germany, fallito il giorno dopo, creare il campioncino dell'eolico Siemens-Gamesa (che storia di successo), passando per <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/desertec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>desertec</span></a> e adesso <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/GreenHydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreenHydrogen</span></a> da Namibia e <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/greeammonia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>greeammonia</span></a> da Arabia<br>ne capiscono più di pasta che di energia</p>
dana hilliot<p>DESERTEC 3.0 – ou le “NÉOCOLONIALISME VERT” (Hamza Hamouchene)</p><p>Je ne saurais trop conseiller à tous ceux qui s’intéressent aux politiques de transition énergétique et écologique à l’horizon de la catastrophe climatique, de lire le volume paru récemment, Dismantling Green Colonialism. Energy and Climate Justice in the Arab Region, édité par Hamza Hamouchene et Katie Sandwell (Pluto Press, 2023). Les auteurs se penchent sur la manière dont les États du Moyen-Orient et de l’Afrique du Nord (MENA) articulent leurs politiques énergétiques, notamment la production d’électricité, aux nouveaux récits internationaux promulgués sous le titre de “transition verte”. Quasiment toute la région constitue une réserve de ressources énergétiques “carbonées” dans lesquels la plupart des pays européens, depuis l’époque coloniale, ont puisé pour assurer leur prospérité et le train de vie de leurs habitants. Ces politiques extractivistes n’ont évidemment pas cessé avec les indépendances, et se poursuivent jusqu’à aujourd’hui sous l’égide des politiques de développement et les “programmes d’ajustement structurels” menées par les institutions internationales, la banque Mondiale, le Fond Monétaire International, le Fond européen de développement, et bien d’autres.</p><p>Au sein des pays de la MENA, il existe évidemment d’énormes différences entre les plus riches, à commencer par les États du Golfe, dont l’hégémonie régionale se traduit par l’accaparement de terres agricoles, le financement de méga-projets énergétiques, sans parler de l’influence politique et militaire, et les pays dont la population est plus pauvre et la puissance économique moindre. Deux passionnants articles sont consacrées aux politiques ambivalentes des États du Golfe en matière de transition “verte” (le chapitre 11. “A Transition to Where? The Gulf Arab States and the New ‘East-East’ Axis of World Oil” par Adam Hanieh et le chapitre 13<br>“Unjust Transitions: The Gulf States’ Role in the “Sustainability Shift” in the Middle East and North Africa” par Christian Henderson). Vous comprendrez mieux ce qui se joue derrière cette décision apparemment absurde ou à tout le moins provocatrice d’accorder à l’Égypte, puis aux Émirats Arabes Unis, et demain à l’Azerbaïdjan, l’organisation des COP 27, 28 et 29 ! De manière plus générale, et je reviendrais sur ce point dans une autre synthèse, cette influence désormais majeure des États du Golfe sur le capitalisme mondial s’inscrit dans la réorientation des échanges selon des axes SUD/SUD, par exemple les flux d’une importance cruciale qui mettent en relation les nouvelles puissances que sont la Chine ou l’Inde avec l’Amérique Latine, l’Afrique, et une bonne partie de l’Asie et du Moyen-Orient. Ce qui doit nous amener à modifier la vision classique des articulations néoloconiales entre l’Occident et le “Global South” (articulations qui n’en restent pas moins tout à fait actuelles).</p><p>Les différentes études proposées dans ce livre, qu’elles portent sur les États du Magrehb, l’Égypte, le Soudan, la Palestine, la Jordanie, ou le Soudan, décrivent des systèmes de domination économique typique du capitalisme néocolonial, fondé sur l’extraction excessive des ressources locales par des compagnies étrangères (souvent européennes), leur importation à bas prix, l’accumulation de capital qui en résulte pour les exploitants, la dépossession des populations autochtones, notamment dans les régions rurales ou délaissées par l’État, et l’interminable sous-développement dans lequel elles demeurent plongées : il est fréquent qu’aux abords de certaines centrales énergétiques high-tech, les populations autochtones n’aient qu’un accès limité à d’électricité et à l’eau potable, quand elles n’en sont pas tout bonnement privées.</p><p>Dans une étude de synthèse, dans l’introduction puis le premier chapitre du recueil qu’il coédite, Hamza Hamouchene donne plusieurs exemples de grands projets visant à la production d’énergies “renouvelables” dans les pays du Maghreb, et particulièrement dans les régions désertiques, menés par des compagnies européennes ou des pays du Golfe, avec l’aval des dirigeants locaux, qui tous répondent avec enthousiasme aux préconisations des institutions de financement internationales : libéralisation et privatisation sont au menu (et l’on brade ainsi non seulement les ressources locales, mais on perd également toute souveraineté sur la gestion de ces ressources – au détriment des populations les plus pauvres).</p><p>Hamza Hamouchene consacre au faramineux projet Desertec 3.0, la dernière partie de son étude (Chapitre 1 : « The Energy Transition in North Africa: Neocolonialism Again! » : j’en propose ici quelques extraits traduits, que vous pourrez lire ici :</p><p><a href="https://outsiderland.com/danahilliot/hamza-hamouchene-desertec-3-0-ou-le-necolonialisme-vert/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">outsiderland.com/danahilliot/h</span><span class="invisible">amza-hamouchene-desertec-3-0-ou-le-necolonialisme-vert/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/colonial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>colonial</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/GreenTransition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreenTransition</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/MENA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MENA</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/desertec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>desertec</span></a></p>
mokomokai<p>All die Versprechungen Europas gegenüber dem <a href="https://dju.social/tags/Maghreb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Maghreb</span></a> wurden nicht eingehalten.</p><p>So wurde <a href="https://dju.social/tags/Desertec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desertec</span></a> blockiert.</p><p>Es gibt zum Beispiel keine Visa für Menschen aus Tunesien , obwohl im Rahmen von "<a href="https://dju.social/tags/Freihandelsabkommen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Freihandelsabkommen</span></a>" dies versprochen wurde.</p><p>Aktuell verspricht Europa nicht mal mehr etwas, sondern winkt mit Kediten und kommuniziert mit einer Bevölkerung auf einer solch herablassend - rassistischen Ebene, dass man nur noch staunen kann, ob solcher Fauxpas‼️</p><p><a href="https://dju.social/tags/Postkolonialismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Postkolonialismus</span></a></p>
mokomokai<p>Es ist der schlimmste Tiefstand seit Beendigung des <a href="https://dju.social/tags/Kolonialismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kolonialismus</span></a> durch die Laender Europas.<br>Es hat auch mit Themen wie <a href="https://dju.social/tags/IWF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IWF</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://dju.social/tags/Freihandelsabkommen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Freihandelsabkommen</span></a> zu tun, von denen nur Europa profitiert.</p><p>V.a. aber hat es damit zu tun, daß sich in allen maghrebinischen Bevölkerungen eine Kraenkung eingegraben hat!<br>Stichwort <a href="https://dju.social/tags/Desertec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desertec</span></a></p><p>Es ist allen Menschen im Maghreb nicht entgangen, dass es nicht vollzogen werden sollte.<br>Europa wird nicht mehr geglaubt<br>Europa spricht von Werten, die nicht praktiziert werden</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@FinalOverdrive" class="u-url mention">@<span>FinalOverdrive</span></a></span> Well, the Energy Shortagre is politically desireable...</p><p>I bet you it&#39;s faster to build <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> than even get a single <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>NPP</span></a> permit denied in Germany...</p><p>The entire crisis is politically desireable, and that&#39;s why it won&#39;t be fixed...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.scot/@bodhipaksa" class="u-url mention">@<span>bodhipaksa</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.nu/@gretathunberg" class="u-url mention">@<span>gretathunberg</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@AufstandLastGen" class="u-url mention">@<span>AufstandLastGen</span></a></span> ...but solutions like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> are politically undesired and those that profit from on a quarterly basis from selling <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/FossilFuels" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>FossilFuels</span></a>... </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLThCHzetTU&amp;t=1932s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=yLThCHzetT</span><span class="invisible">U&amp;t=1932s</span></a></p>
शून्यता<p>"Den Strom für die Produktion erzeugen wir mit Brennstoffzellen. Den Wasserstoff dafür bekommen wir aus Nordafrika."</p><p>Ha, <a href="https://dresden.network/tags/Desertec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desertec</span></a> lässt grüßen!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@kevinrns" class="u-url mention">@<span>kevinrns</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://spore.social/@gdeihl" class="u-url mention">@<span>gdeihl</span></a></span> we all know that solving the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/EnergyProblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>EnergyProblem</span></a> is not a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/technological" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>technological</span></a> but just a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/political" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>political</span></a> issue and it won&#39;t be solved because it&#39;s not profitable to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Sahara" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Sahara</span></a> in comparison to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/FossilFuel" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>FossilFuel</span></a> - espechally in terms of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Lobbying" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Lobbying</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://friendica.opensocial.space/profile/samuelmumm" class="u-url mention">@<span>samuelmumm</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@Volksverpetzer" class="u-url mention">@<span>Volksverpetzer</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://freiburg.social/@balkonsolar" class="u-url mention">@<span>balkonsolar</span></a></span> Tja, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a> wollte ja keine*r und jetzt haben wir die shice.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Wasserstoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Wasserstoff</span></a> ersetzt allenfalls ne <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/HG%C3%9C" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>HGÜ</span></a> über Gibraltar...<br />Fakt ist allerdings, dass wir sofern wir nicht auf Dünger, Pestizide und Pharmazeutika verzichten wollen nen chemisches Drop-In - Replacement für Erdgas vrauchen werden.</p><p>Das wird halt teurer als vollsynthetischer Kraftstoff (jenseits der €10/l Verkaufspreis)...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://friendica.opensocial.space/profile/samuelmumm" class="u-url mention">@<span>samuelmumm</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@Volksverpetzer" class="u-url mention">@<span>Volksverpetzer</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://freiburg.social/@balkonsolar" class="u-url mention">@<span>balkonsolar</span></a></span> </p><p>4. Solange der <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Strompreis" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Strompreis</span></a> z.T. €0,62/kWh ist dürfte Wärmepumpe für viele unbezahlbar bleiben!</p><p>Das einzige was hilft ist das <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Energieproblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Energieproblem</span></a> an sich zu lösen, und das ist keine technische sondern eine rein politische Problemstellung...<br />Siehe <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a>...</p>
WinFuture.de<p>Das alte <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Desertec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desertec</span></a>-Projekt könnte bald eine Neuauflage erleben. Europa ist seh daran interessiert, große Mengen Solarstrom aus Nordafrika zu bekommen. <a href="https://winfuture.de/news,135708.html?utm_source=Mastodon&amp;utm_medium=ManualStatus&amp;utm_campaign=SocialMedia" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">winfuture.de/news,135708.html?</span><span class="invisible">utm_source=Mastodon&amp;utm_medium=ManualStatus&amp;utm_campaign=SocialMedia</span></a></p>