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Klaus-Gerd Giesen<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Biketooter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Biketooter</a> :When planning a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/bike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bike</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/route" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#route</a> with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OSM</a> based <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/routing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#routing</a> engines, such as <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Brouter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Brouter</a> / <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Bikerouter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bikerouter</a> ,the result analysis frequently shows some <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/surface" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#surface</a> percentage as "unknown". I guess that's because the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/information" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#information</a> is missing in the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenstreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenstreetMap</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/database" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#database</a> .However, when I upload the same track as <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/GPX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GPX</a> into a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/commercial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#commercial</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/biking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#biking</a> application, such as <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Komoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Komoot</a> or <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Cyclers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cyclers</a> ,the "unknown" has disappeared, while they are also based on OSM. How come?

Klaus-Gerd Giesen<a href="https://social.cologne/@kevogel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kevogel</a> I use both for <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/routing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#routing</a> and then compare. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Cyclers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cyclers</a> has great features and its use on its website is free. Especially, it shows the traffic on each small segment of the road.

Kevin Vogel<a href="https://chaos.social/@KlausGerdGiesen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@KlausGerdGiesen</a> Thanks for sharing alternatives for <a href="https://social.cologne/tags/komoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#komoot</a>. I was concerned what I should do, if worse comes to worst. But now I can be relaxed. Especially <a href="https://social.cologne/tags/Brouter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Brouter</a> and <a href="https://social.cologne/tags/Cyclers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cyclers</a> make a really good impression to me.

Klaus-Gerd Giesen<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/BendingSpoons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BendingSpoons</a> is a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/PrivateEquity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PrivateEquity</a> firm. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Komoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Komoot</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/bike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bike</a> users should download their already ridden or planned <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/tracks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tracks</a> as <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/GPX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GPX</a> files as soon as possible before they have to pay a lot for them (or even to get a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/map" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#map</a> update). Better alternatives to Komoot: <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Routing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Routing</a> with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Brouter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Brouter</a> , <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Cyclers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cyclers</a> , <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/VisuGPX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#VisuGPX</a> or <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Valhalla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Valhalla</a> ; (free) navigation with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OrganicMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OrganicMaps</a> or <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/CycleTravel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CycleTravel</a> . Everything else (photos, etc.) is anyway a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/socialmedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#socialmedia</a> feature.<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/BikeTooter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BikeTooter</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/fahrrad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fahrrad</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/v%C3%A9lo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vélo</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cyclotourisme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cyclotourisme</a> <a href="https://road.cc/content/news/job-cuts-expected-komoot-after-tech-firm-purchase-313159" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://road.cc/content/news/job-cuts-expected-komoot-after-tech-firm-purchase-313159</a>

Klaus-Gerd Giesen<a href="https://karlsruhe-social.de/@cehteh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cehteh</a> Thank you so much. I will try to follow your instructions. If I manage to do it, it would be the perfect solution. I didn't know that there is a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Brouter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Brouter</a> plugin in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OsmAnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OsmAnd</a> .This can be very helpful as I anyway use Brouter.de (+ <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Valhalla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Valhalla</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/routing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#routing</a> engine + <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Cyclers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cyclers</a> web routing engine) to plan my <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/bike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bike</a> tracks. Thanks again. By the way, is there somewhere a sort of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OsmAnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OsmAnd</a> manual? I often get lost with the application and the help section is not always explicit enough for people like me.

Klaus-Gerd GiesenDay 3 of first <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/bikepacking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bikepacking</a> tour in 2025: in Southern <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#France</a> ,on <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/greenway" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#greenway</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/ViaRhona" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ViaRhona</a> in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Avignon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Avignon</a> ,one gets to contemplate some puzzling constructions (in the background <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/MontVentoux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MontVentoux</a> ,famous among <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cyclers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cyclers</a> ):<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/biketooter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#biketooter</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Rh%C3%B4ne" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Rhône</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cyclotourisme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cyclotourisme</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/radreise" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#radreise</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Brompton" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Brompton</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/radfahren" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#radfahren</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/v%C3%A9lo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vélo</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cycling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cycling</a>

Sesivany's blogMapy.cz mají předplatné, ale Seznam už mě naučil používat něco jinéhoTrošku se zpožděním, ale napsal jsem o předplatném Mapy.cz. Cena příjemně překvapila, ale já už se naučil používat něco jiného. V druhé části článku se věnuji tomu, co to je a v čem je to lepší než Mapy.cz.<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/cyclers/" target="_blank">#Cyclers</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/freemapsk/" target="_blank">#Freemapsk</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/locusmap/" target="_blank">#LocusMap</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/mapy/" target="_blank">#mapy</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/mapycz/" target="_blank">#Mapycz</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/openstreetmap/" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/organicmaps/" target="_blank">#OrganicMaps</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/osm/" target="_blank">#OSM</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/osmand/" target="_blank">#OsmAnd</a><a href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/2025/01/01/mapy-cz-maji-predplatne-ale-seznam-uz-me-naucil-pouzivat-neco-jineho/" class="" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.eischmann.cz/2025/01/01/mapy-cz-maji-predplatne-ale-seznam-uz-me-naucil-pouzivat-neco-jineho/</a> (reakce na tento příspěvek se může zobrazit jako komentář pod článkem)

Klaus-Gerd Giesen<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@sesivany" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sesivany</a> Thank you. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Cyclers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cyclers</a> is great. However, your video does not show on my Mastodon application. I will nevertheless try to replicate your experimentation.

Jiří EischmannI stumbled across this way to change a suggested route in <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Cyclers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cyclers</a>. You don't drag and drop points, you just draw with your finger where you want to go. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen this in any other navigation app. I think it's cool.<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/cycling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cycling</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/navigation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#navigation</a>

Martin KroulZkoušel jsem dnes první ranní jízdu s aplikací <a href="https://mastodonczech.cz/tags/cyclers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cyclers</a> Na 5 z 5 to zatím není, ale potenciál má velký.😎😉 Kromě jiného bylo ráno před šestou stále takové teplo, že jsem jel jen v tričku, za to ale jako obvykle s oběma světlama.<a href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/@sesivanyblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sesivanyblog</a>

Sesivany's blogSrovnání: plánovače výletů na koleJezdíte rádi na kole? Tak právě pro vás jsem udělal menší srovnání pěti různých online plánovačů cyklovýletů: Mapy.cz, OsmAnd, Strava, Garmin Connect, Cyclers. Každý na to jde trochu jinak a každý vyniká trochu v něčem jiném.<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/biking/" target="_blank">#biking</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/cyclers/" target="_blank">#Cyclers</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/garmin/" target="_blank">#Garmin</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/kolo/" target="_blank">#kolo</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/mapy/" target="_blank">#mapy</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/mapy-cz/" target="_blank">#mapyCz</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/openstreetmap/" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/osm/" target="_blank">#OSM</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/osmand/" target="_blank">#OsmAnd</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/tag/strava/" target="_blank">#Strava</a><a href="https://blog.eischmann.cz/2024/08/15/srovnani-planovace-vyletu-na-kole/" class="" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.eischmann.cz/2024/08/15/srovnani-planovace-vyletu-na-kole/</a>

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