Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://soc.megatokyo.moe/users/wyatt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>wyatt</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bitbang.social/@ActionRetro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ActionRetro</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bitbang.social/@thisdoesnotcomp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thisdoesnotcomp</span></a></span> yeah, they have a shitton of issues.</p><ul><li>But certainly none of their <em>"competitors"</em> don't even halfass the fundamentals like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>documentation</span></a>. </li></ul><p>And to be honest, most folks ain't gonna bother to go all <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@geerlingguy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>geerlingguy</span></a></span> - style into the weeds and build their own kernel and stuff - certainly not for single-digit €/$ price differences!</p><ul><li>And now we all know why my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> is unused but I love my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi0W" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi0W</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi0W2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi0W2</span></a>|s...</li></ul>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://merveilles.town/@pixx" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>pixx</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/@rl_dane" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>rl_dane</span></a></span> I'm not that deep into <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ARM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ARM</span></a> as everyone but @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social fails in absolute basics like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>documentation</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Guess why my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> is still unused and I got a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PiZero2W" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PiZero2W</span></a> recently instead??</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hackers.town/@LambdaCalculus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>LambdaCalculus</span></a></span> <br>As long as <em>"cheap chinese clones"</em> only try to bamboozle with specs and not get their documentation and drivers onto an acceptable standard (and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi5B" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi5B</span></a> sets the bottom line here!), noone wants to buy those.</p><ul><li>I literally have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> that I bought during the great <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PiShortage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PiShortage</span></a> but I never bothered to use it anywhere because it's more hassle than to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KonrpeVRRjc" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">antenna mod</a> a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi0W" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi0W</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi0W2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi0W2</span></a> and call it a day because it doesn't require me to download some janky custom image to get even a regular 80x25 <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> CLI up and running.</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://akko.contref.eu/users/contrefeu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>contrefeu</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@wdormann" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>wdormann</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://raspberrypi.social/@Raspberry_Pi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Raspberry_Pi</span></a></span> </p><p>I think a lot of those <em>cheap <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RaspberryPi</span></a> "clones"</em> are just <em>lazy</em> attempts to just throw some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SBC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SBC</span></a> together and oit the door withoit putting in any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/effort" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>effort</span></a>...</p><p>For example, the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> should <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">run circles</a> around the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi0W" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi0W</span></a> as it even comes with the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KonrpeVRRjc" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">best mod ever</a> right out of the box.</p><p>Instead, they <em>feel</em> like a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIQ10qSTZX8" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">chinese knockoff</a> with basically <em>nonexistant documentation</em>...</p><p>Compared to that anyone could propably port <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> to the original <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi1B" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi1B</span></a> v1.2 within a week if they wanted to, as it's relatively standard <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/32bit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>32bit</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ARMv5r11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ARMv5r11</span></a> with <a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/raspberry-pi.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">all the published documentation</a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral" class="u-url mention">@<span>aral</span></a></span> Sadly, @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social dominates the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SBC" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SBC</span></a> market because all the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/copycats" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>copycats</span></a> fail at providing eben the most basic <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>documentation</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/support" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>support</span></a> to even consider them.</p><p>I have a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> and whilst this thing can on paper run circles around the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PiZeroW" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>PiZeroW</span></a>, one can't even force it's HDMI to output something else but 720p60...</p><p>Amd that't the problem: Lack of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/competition" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>competition</span></a> with feadible <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/alternatives" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>alternatives</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hostux.social/@CraftComputing" class="u-url mention">@<span>CraftComputing</span></a></span> @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social it's similarly shit like the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BPi0M2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BPi0M2</span></a> because if a CS professior can't get an SBC to output anything but 720p60, it's the fault of the company that creates it - not the users buying it.<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Apps</span></a> make <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/OperatingSystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OperatingSystems</span></a>, <br />Operating Systems make <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Hardware" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Hardware</span></a>. </p><p>That's why people put up with the shit of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Apple</span></a> and some even can tolerate <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> apparently...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tech.lgbt/@trashheap" class="u-url mention">@<span>trashheap</span></a></span> @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social </p><p>Whereas one can basically DIY a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>distro</span></a> for the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>RaspberryPi</span></a> just from the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LinuxFromScratch" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>LinuxFromScratch</span></a> & <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Raspberry" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Raspberry</span></a> Foundation's documation.</p><p>Try that with a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> that even people who do Computers for a living and teach in them can't even get the few systems that support it to run on anything but 720p60.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Fell<p>Looks like @sqfmi renamed their <a href="https://ma.fellr.net/tags/Beepberry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Beepberry</span></a> to just <a href="https://ma.fellr.net/tags/Beepy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Beepy</span></a>. Did they get into legal trouble with <a href="https://ma.fellr.net/tags/Blackberry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Blackberry</span></a>? 🤔</p><p>Maybe they just decided it's better to spin their own keyboard, which I would agree with!</p><p>In any way, I really want one. I can't wait to figure out all the compatibility issues with my <a href="https://ma.fellr.net/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> / <a href="https://ma.fellr.net/tags/BananaPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BananaPi</span></a>. It would be cool if it works though.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.town/@ethanOS" class="u-url mention">@<span>ethanOS</span></a></span> thx but I'm still figuring out how to get the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BPi0M2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BPi0M2</span></a> working as a drop-in replacement for the @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi0W" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi0W</span></a> & <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi0" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi0</span></a> since <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>RaspberryPi</span></a> seems more unwilling than unable to get units sold via their distributors at <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MSRP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>MSRP</span></a>. </p><p>Cuz the scalpers charge €60+ for a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi0W" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi0W</span></a> and €120+ for a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi0" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi0</span></a> v1.3 when both are actually €10 and €5 MSRP.</p><p>Industrial customers however seem to get double-digit numbers at MSRP just fine...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.ca/@sbb" class="u-url mention">@<span>sbb</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@Natanox" class="u-url mention">@<span>Natanox</span></a></span> EXACTLY THAT!</p><p>The <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> on paper should basically run laps around the @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi0" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi0</span></a> & <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi0W" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi0W</span></a> but it doesn't even allow anything but 720p60 on HDMI...</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Software" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Software</span></a> makes <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/OperatingSystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OperatingSystems</span></a> and Operating Systems make <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Hardware" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Hardware</span></a> </p><p>THIS is why the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>RaspberryPi</span></a> owns the market...</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/110221755361091686" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mstdn.social/@kkarhan/11022175</span><span class="invisible">5361091686</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@Natanox" class="u-url mention">@<span>Natanox</span></a></span> As much as I'd consider alternatives to @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social since their stuff is being scalped beyond insane, a lot of those suffer from poor software support, worse availability and even higher prices.</p><p>That being said I do use a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BPi0M2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BPi0M2</span></a> since the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi0" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi0</span></a>/#Pi0W is being scalped >10x it's <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MSRP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>MSRP</span></a> and I've yet to find a good <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/CM4" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>CM4</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi4B" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi4B</span></a> replacement that isn't out of production, double the price or unsupported by even <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span> or <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Debian</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://witches.live/@B_Whitewind" class="u-url mention">@<span>B_Whitewind</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@rpilocator" class="u-url mention">@<span>rpilocator</span></a></span> @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social that being said the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> really lacks in terms of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/software" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>software</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/support" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>support</span></a> & <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>documentation</span></a> as well as <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/aftermarket" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>aftermarket</span></a> - something the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi0" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi0</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Pi0W" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pi0W</span></a> inevitably will have an edge above it.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>But I really should make a "bottom - of - the - barrel" PC build.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@aallan" class="u-url mention">@<span>aallan</span></a></span> @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social thx.</p><p>The excellent <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>documentation</span></a> of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>RaspberryPi</span></a> products is what really made the huge ecosystem bloom.</p><p>Cuz as we can see with several competitiors, just throwing <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/hardware" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>hardware</span></a> out into the wild doesn't guarantee any success.</p><p>And noone's really in a hurry to get a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BananaPiZeroM2" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>BananaPiZeroM2</span></a> when it refuses to do 1080p no matter the configuration... <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
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