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vruz

Between Sam Altman, Sundar Pichai, and Elon Musk on the one side, and Roger Penrose on the other... I think my ideas about AI are more in line with Penrose's.

youtube.com/watch?v=biUfMZ2dts8

@joelvanderwerf hahahahahahah

You're right!!! The guy doesn't understand the first thing!!

hahahaha you killed it Joel!!

@joelvanderwerf

When I posted it I thought that the interviewer was taking a devil advocate's position, which is a good strategy to make the public empathise and engage by way of an introduction that helps to lead the uninitiated into complex territory.

After a while I realised that it wasn't a tactic, strategy, or pedagogical aim... the interviewer was the archetypal uninitiated himself.

@joelvanderwerf

Penrose himself is a bit sui generis, to say the least, so I wouldn't have blamed an interviewer who could have pressed Roger on some of his more esoteric views.

But to my surprise, in light of this interview I find myself wondering whether Penrose's fiercely defended belief that the kind of intelligence that emerges naturally in humans isn't computable hadn't met right there, in person, an insurmountable test.

@joelvanderwerf

The very thing Penrose claims is unique to human intelligence (conscious insight) seems to fail in the case of the interviewer, and that might be an "insurmountable test" for Penrose's view — because if that capacity is truly there in all humans, it should be accessible (at least in principle), but it’s evidently not guaranteed to operate in everyone, or in every context.