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@stux@mstdn.socialAfter close consideration we have come to the decision to block Threads.net instance wide on all related instances
(mstdn.social, masto.ai, mastodon.coffee, pixey.org, gram.social)
The new Meta policy goes against much we stand for and we will not allow to let it spill over to the Fediverse
I just checked the numbers and it seems Threads is the biggest 'loser' here
On all instances combined we lose just under 100 followers spread across all instances
Threads will lose over 13K total
I understand it's rough to lose accounts you follow from Threads but unfortunately it is not worth the risk
Hopefully people on Threads will realize the true origin of the company running their platform and will make the decision to join us here in the Fediverse 
I really really tried making this work but I cannot go any further
Mark Zuckerberg is a person I cannot and will not with with in any way. Sorry not sorry
The hammer has done it's work 
Some people may wonder why it's now and not before and I would like to try and explain as good as I can
We are a relative large instance in the Fediverse so that comes with a lot of responsibility in making decisions. One of our main goals is safety but we also want to be open and connective until a certain point
Threads promised to be different and we always kept it with a grain of salt but did let the people decide if they wanted to block or not
The new policy is just far over the fine line
Stux and all the mods over there, well done for taking a stand 
Hope more admins follow your example.
@stux Glad that you made the choice and the right one at that. 
@stux Good for you
@stux Thanks, stux, fully support you. I had filtered Threads accounts and blocked the domain but this makes it more reliable. I don't want Meta harvesting my personal info or posts because a Threads account crossed the streams.
It's not as if folks can't go to Threads and follow accounts there by other methods.
@stux indeed, although I expect anyone on threads unhappy with the choices will instead move to bluesky. 
The majority remaining just won't care.
My spouse and her groups are all moving to Bsky. Couldn't get them to understand Mastodon or the fediverse and everyone they know jumped to bluesky because it seemed more familiar and most people they already knew were on it. There doesn't seem to be an equivalent to the "marketplace" there though, one of the main things they use it for.
@Haikyoneko @cainmark @ivor Well yes and no 
If you setup a PDS you still rely on a BIG part of the Bsky services for it to even work 
Not by a loooong shot is it something standalone like Mastodon for example
@Haikyoneko @cainmark @ivor Here's a nice sum up from many of them: https://status.bsky.app/
Not all but a lot, that are needed for your self-hosted "server" to even work
@Haikyoneko @stux @cainmark @ivor If you're interested in a detailed evaluation on how decentralized or not BlueSky is, Christine has done one: https://social.coop/@cwebber/113527462572885698
@gunchleoc @stux @cainmark @ivor always interested in learning something new. 
@Haikyoneko @gunchleoc @stux @cainmark @ivor It is quite seriously a fascinating topic. Bluesky is more centralized in a lot of ways but less in others (composable moderation, feeds, starter packs, probably something else I'm forgetting right now).
@stux@mstdn.social
gotta do what ya gotta do
you do know what time it is....
@stux Thanks. I personally think this was a good and reasonable decision, though of course I'm just one person. I also have an account on mstdn.social, so I have some skin in the game.
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> Threads promised to be different
lmfao
(i'm sorry, but i can't take that statement seriously, especially from that corporation)
@getimiskon Well, i was a little more closer with their dev team so
«i was a little more closer with their dev team so»
the dev team, or any dev team in a corporate environment is _not_ a subject in the decision making, and _treads_ is not a legal entity. a dev team can give out as many «promises» as necessary to keep them employed. a lot of admins followed gargron's lead to let it pass despite many-many forewarnings.
this is _the_ perfect «we told ya'» moment; not because people are evil, but because nothing but pityless rubbing in seems to have any effect.
having said that: better late than too late i guess, congrats & thank you.
@getimiskon
@stux I’m new here, and I found it because I was trying to get away from anything connected to Meta or Musk., especially after Zuck’s recent announcement.
However, I don’t know what the Fediverse is - could you explain in language a non-techy can understand? 
the fediverse is a network of social networks
for example: you joined the "mastodon.social" instance
what's an instance?
it's a community of people who use the Mastodon software
but your instance/community is connected to other instances/communities that use the Mastodon software: so you can read and talk to them too.
but there is more: your instance is connected also to instances that use a software different from Mastodon (for example PeerTube, which is similar to Youtube)
@Venta @stux
so you are connected to those communities too.
this community of communities is the Fediverse.
the advantage: it can't be controlled by a single person/company.
if you don't like your instance, you can change it.
if you don't like Mastodon, you can use another software, but you will still remain in the Fediverse.
here is the Fediverse software for picture sharing, if you want to give a look:
https://pixelfed.org/
Even if it is another software, people from Mastodon can still see the art you post there.
That's pretty much the Fediverse.
Unfortunately it is much smaller than Instagram.
Pixelfed is particularly easy to migrate to from Instagram: they have a special importer for this.
I use it for my visual arts postings. It also has gallery and collections features. I never got much out of Instagram, so I can't say with much authority how it compares, but I like Pixelfed.
"Federated" social media means people who have accounts on different social media services, and using different apps, can follow and interact with each other. I'm on Mastodon, but through my Mastodon app I can follow and interact with people on smaller social media sites like Friendica and Pixelfed, because Mastodon and Friendica and Pixelfed are all "federated." People using those services can all talk to each other because we're all in the "Fediverse."
Threads is KINDA part of the Fediverse. Mastodon users can follow (and reply to) Threads users, but so far they can't reply back to us, because Threads doesn't allow that (though they say they eventually will.)
But after Meta announced this new "no fact checking" policy a lot of admins are blocking Threads. So some Mastodon users will still be able to follow Threads users, but others won't, because their admin has blocked it.
The Wikipedia articles on the Fediverse and Mastodon are good reads and not too dense with tech info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse
@Venta @stux The "fediverse" is the name for the federated social web -- different platforms which can connect. Just like you used to only be able to send email to another AOL account (if you recall those days!) right now people can only interact with users on the same platform e.g. Facebook. With the fediverse, you can talk between platforms e.g. from Threads to Mastodon and between different Mastodon servers (as well as other services like Flipboard, Ghost, and Pixelfeed). HTH!
@stux @Venta These are great but we also need to develop messaging that doesn't say "Protocol" (or "server" or "platform")... These terms are off putting and don't connect with what people are thinking about ("I want to follow Timothee Chalamet!" "I hate seeing racist and sexist posts!" "I don't want ads" etc...)
@alterelefant @stux @Venta Can you say it without saying "algorithm" ?
@maj yes, replace algo with owner's name.
@Venta @stux Each server can decide which other servers to interact with. For example, I moved from another server to cosocial.ca because I *do* want to follow people on Threads.
If you don't like the decisions your server makes, you just move elsewhere!
Some folks want a more protected, heavily moderated place and others are more wild west. Up to you to decide.
Relatively large overall, but I am thinking coffee must be one of the smallest. . . happy to be here!
@stux Blocked them, was kind of weird to read President Biden's toots on this instance but no possibility to answer was a red flag already.
Good luck, you're doing a wonderful, very responsible job, don't be afraid to make mistakes, 'we' all do.
@stux building consensus can be a long process, especially when there is a large group of people involved and it is a good thing the fediverse is not a hive mind. A clear red line has been crossed now and thankfully all involved see it now. When things are really clear, consensus becomes easy. Thanks a lot, to all involved in this decision.
@stux Often an individual is safer when connected to others, so it really makes a person think about what's happening when safety and connectivity become competing interests. You all are clearly being thoughtful about that. FWIW I was struck by the other big analysis, that Threads would be the bigger loser in the loss of connectivity. That seems deeply meaningful to me--that they cannot see their true reflection in greater humanity's mirror anymore.
If that makes any sense at all.
@stux was about to ask you this now I don't need to.
@stux Thank you for this clear decision and thank you for explaining the reasons in this open and transparent way for all federati to see. It is (IMHO) the absolute right decision.