Yesterday I came across a 'meme' about the second amendment in the US and it sticked with me..
The second amendment (gun BS law) was created with the Musket in mind that could fire ~max 2 rounds per minute.
These days many (US Fanboys ) don't have Muskets anymore but AR15's for example. This stupid weapon fires 400 rounds per minute ⚠️ What the actually fucking fuck is what I ask..
For hunting deer? "Protecting" yourself? From what? Aliens?
This shit is one of the things keeping me from moving there. Why would I want ppl around me who think guns are okay and cool..
I call it a sickness.
And yes, I know. It's super easy bitching from across the ocean.
But the thing is.. The US acts like it's "leading the world" and the West with all but to be honest, from our side of view it looks a bit like a wild west shit hole...
How an we accept leadership from ppl who can't even get their own shit on order wow.. I know it's rooted deep but what is needed that things finally change?
It seems most people don't want it but still put up with, wth.. At some point one's gotta say it's enough.. 😠
I mean, I can "forget" it all and act like it's not there but I want a safe place for my American friends ❤️ I care a lot about you..
@email@example.com Exactly. The founding fathers couldn't have seen technology advancing this quickly ahead of time, and now trigger happy people are taking advantage of it.
Fuck. guns. Or more importantly, fuck the people who exploit these rules when they're so goody goody about defending the constiution.
@Arcana Even with other weapons it doesn't make any sense in the current day 😮
Isn't it a bit weird the US is almost the only country acting this way?
@stux @Arcana I went to US some years ago on a business trip. I read the morning paper (jetlag) and stumbled about news that I thought of as satire at first: Texas (I believe it was Tx) called upon their militia to be ready, because … the US army held a manoeuvre of sorts in the state. They in earnest prepared to defend against a coup d’etat from Washington against the Tx government. From their point of view they really need to be prepared all the time to fight
And to avoid any confusion: Until Switzerland joined Schengen, it had more lax gun laws than most US states. But guns were never seen as a means of personal defense. You don't walk around with a gun. You just don't. Unless you want to be politely, but sternly told to leave your gun at home by people (and yes, it's illegal to carry a gun for "self-defense").
Now, when they weren't used for self-defense, why so many guns? Well, in case Blauland would attack from the north.
@Arcana @stux every time a people the US rose up to protect themselves from the tyranny *of* the US, they were brutally beaten down, and then the laws were amended so it would be harder for *them* to get weapons.
black panthers patrolling black neighbourhoods to protect them from police brutality is an insurrection.
mass shootings in schools twice a day is a terrible tragedy that nobody can do nothing against. it also keeps people in check, so 🤷🏻♀️
re: uspol redux
But, active school shootings have not increased. Non-active shooting as a side category has increased dramatically. The definition of non-active continues to broaden and includes such things as being caught with a weapon, having made possibly idle threats, or even "acting suspicious".
Active shooting extremely low, and has not changed much on average.
@stux Americans protecting their land from emigrants like they would live in a paradise. When actually everyone thinks of it as a dumpster fire
@stux A bit of the problem is that those who want the world to follow them is those who want to export their conservative values onto the rest of the world (not minding if the world wants it or not).
@stux well, speak for yourself. This notion that we Europeans are somehow morally superior to Americans is trully bizarre and frankly I've never seen americans having such strong opinion about european laws that don't affect them in any way, so I think it is arrogant that we tell them how to live their lifes. The gun ownership correlation with violent crime got debunked so many times it's already straight up boring to just talk about it.
Except it hasn't been "debunked so many times". You don't need someone else to confirm or debunk it for you. Just pull up the data on the number of gun deaths in the US versus the UK. Then, just to satiate your desire to suggest that stabbing deaths would be wildly higher if guns were banned in the US, go ahead and pull up the stats for stabbing deaths in the US vs UK.
You will see that gun violence is rampant in the US. I live here. It is EVERYWHERE: large and small cities.
@stux I watched part of a 'Bodycam' documentary (think on Discovery channel) yesterday.
Police were called in by a distraught young man who seemed to suffer from a mental crisis. Happens to many people.
Except, it was in the US, and the guy had a box full of automatic rifles and ammo.
So what should have been a basic domestic disturbance escalated and 3 officers were wounded, one officer was killed, after which a swat team killed the young man.
Situation would be unthinkable where I live.
@stux I've come to the conclusion that Americans actually enjoy mass shootings, and that's why they don't try to prevent them.
@stux I was sitting in my living room the other day and suddenly there was a barrage of gunfire very nearby. I have chronic anxiety so after my neighbour had fun for about an hour I was sitting on my couch for an additional two trembling and hyperventilating. The problem with this country is this narcissistic focus on rights without regard for the community at large.
@stux thank you for caring. As an American I need to care more than I do. It shouldn’t have to be a political issue. Politics is where it ends up. And almost every representative of the people in the 3 branches of govt are millionaires and the ones at the top are mostly old rich white dudes. So they don’t have a lot of skin in the game.
Come to my shit hole called Texas, and I will show you a good time, as I did with my German cousins, where people, relatively speaking, get to choose every day how to live out their lives.
While you are here, I can try to explain how to optimize long-term civilization. It is my understanding there is no such thing as a fear-free existence. It is just a matter of prioritizing what to be fearful of.
@curtis Hell no lol! As I explained in my first toot, if the way of thinking about guns is still that present in such a way I'd skip the US big time 💪
What the hell would I wanna risk being shot by a random person each day while I can live elsewhere in muuuuuch more peace at mind lol
No sir, I'm not thinking about it.
@stux thanks! I live in the US and its exactly as bad as it seems lol. I wish the states were colonized AFTER universal healthcare was established smh
@stux granted, I live in the U.S. and feel relatively safe in my neighborhood, but it's still scary. The only "weapons" we have are nonlethal
@calculsoberic Hm, it’s uhh ‘better’ at least! But how come? Is it the neighborhood or something by local law?
In the Netherlands even a knife if now allowed in public, cause well you know.. what would be a valid reason to stab or slice someone? Same goes for tasers, those can be quite deadly also
@stux it's the neighborhood, once in awhile I've felt scared. I would only do it as a last resort though.
@calculsoberic hmm got it! ♥️👌🏻 but let’s say.. for example, anyone can walk down your street with an AR15 on their back if they wanna?
Conceal carry is normal. Unless it is a gun convention, open carry is taken as weirdly aggressive. And it is a separate permit. And a lot of places, i.e. schools, bars, forbid weapons.
Concealed carry also makes the controversy more muted. An educated free citizen can obtain a firearm pretty easily even without permission, and not many would know.
- 3d printing schematics exist online for guns.
- A free citizen can communicate with a gun owner without being monitored and trade for it. - Basic guns and ranged weaponry are not that hard to manufacture in the traditional way.