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@spla @EUCommission Apple would unofficially support them, but the official stores would disappear.

@darnell sounds bad, could be a lot better EUComission asking EU Apple users what they need/want @EUCommission

@spla pretty sure @EUCommission is aligned here with what users need/want.

This kind of straight-up assuming this is some kind of inexplicable and senseless power-grab by the EU Commission is really getting tedious.

EU moves slow on such things, but it moves deliberately. It took years to negotiate and enact the acts that underpin this enforcement action. If EU citizens had a problem with that, they'd push back, hard, over the years. As an EU citizen I have seen no such push-back.

@darnell

@spla every single time the EU does something to curb the power of Big Tech, there is "concern" that "it is going too far" and "what if they leave the market".

Didn't happen with GDPR.
Didn't happen with charging ports and chargers regulations.
Won't happen with DMA/DSA (which are the legislative acts that underpin the app store thing), with right-to-repair regulation, or anything else of the sort.

Apple has a long history of throwing tantrums around regulation.

@EUCommission @darnell

@rysiek @spla @EUCommission So far Apple will not launch their AI within the European Union 🇪🇺 (Apple Intelligence) but the trade off is that EU folks get access to third party app stores.

It is similar to Meta, who declined ActivityPub support for EU users on Threads, but they get the ability to experience Instagram without ads for a fee.

@darnell we don't need third app stores, never asked about that.
And Safari is a really great browser. I tested all of them on Mac but Safari is great.
@rysiek @EUCommission

@spla you never asked about it. Others have. Otherwise that regulation would not come to pass.

But good news is, you are not going to be forced to use third party app stores. You have that choice, and you don't even have to do anything. 😃

And I am glad Safari works for you. I am also glad others will have the choice to use what works for them.

@darnell @EUCommission

@rysiek
I'm not forced to use them and will never do it 😉
@darnell @EUCommission

@spla dunno, being able to run VLC on an iDevice sounds pretty tempting to me.

@darnell @EUCommission

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@darnell yeah, that's the kind of thing that this third-party app store stuff is about. Framed like that, doesn't sound all that bad, does it? :ablobwink:

@spla @EUCommission

Hey @EUCommission are you paying attention? This is how you convince people to support DMA/DSA – by mentioning a popular FLOSS project!

Now, let's talk about that missing funding in Digital Europe, shall we? :blobcatcoffee:

@darnell @spla