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@GossiTheDog I do find it interesting that both AMD and Intel haven't announced that they're going to start making AI-focused GPU's. Yes, nVidia has been the leader for raw GPU compute for a decade or more, but both AMD and Intel compete (somewhat) in the GPU market.

Or even that no China-based chip manufacturer hasn't stepped into the ring either.

@Mustardfacial @GossiTheDog AMD also sells a lot of datacenter GPUs, but with less drumming about AI.

Although worth noting that AMD and Intel were pushing 'AI Cores' on their new CPU lineups, but I think they are just basically GPU cores.

@CommieGIR @Mustardfacial @GossiTheDog They aren’t GPU cores, there are chunky but (supposedly) efficient purpose-built neural processor subsystems on the Ryzen AI and Intel Core Ultra 200V SoCs. Impetus seems to mostly be Microsoft’s “Copilot+” branding which requires a 40TOPS+ NPU. Plus, keeping up with Qualcomm. There is very little software that actually uses it though. (The GPU is probably faster but consumes more energy for the same job.)

@pmdj @Mustardfacial @GossiTheDog Oh good so its worthless if I don't want to use AI.

Phil Dennis-Jordan

@CommieGIR @Mustardfacial @GossiTheDog More or less! I don’t know if it can be used for anything other than neural networks, e.g. general matrix operations. To be fair I’ve also not looked into what APIs you use to program these things… it’s certainly nothing as general purpose as OpenCL though.
On the plus side, the specialisation means that it’s fairly compact and doesn’t wast all that much die area.

@pmdj @Mustardfacial @GossiTheDog Which is funny because most of the AMD APUs support OpenCL, so less useless than a standard AMD APU GPU.

@CommieGIR @Mustardfacial @GossiTheDog Yep, OpenCL is supported by *all* consumer GPUs including iGPUs from the last 10+ years. It varies greatly how fast they are of course.

@CommieGIR @Mustardfacial @GossiTheDog Cynics might say it’s worthless even if you do use AI because there’s virtually no software that uses it. 🤪 Supposedly the background blur in MS Teams will use it, and so will the video speech recognition/live translation feature that’s apparently in the latest version of Windows 11.