There is no more important talking point in Facebook’s lobbying and PR arsenal than “we don’t SELL our users’ data” going back to 2010. This is important as their core biz model is surveillance capitalism monetized by micro targeted advertising. So a question for tech press… 1/5
Why is that the tech press continues to avoid stating the data was sold when they report on the scandal when Facebook knowingly covered up that their personal data was improperly sold to a third party? Is Facebook PR that good??? Twelve different press outlets JUST TODAY. 2/5
Here are four more MAJOR outlets TODAY related to the largest data privacy class lawsuit in FB’s history announced JUST last night. None say the data was “sold.” 3/5
Making my point one last time…here are yet again four more MAJOR outlets. None say the data was “sold.” For years, press would tell me it was only alleged and the contract didn’t prove the Facebook data was sold for money. 4/5
Here is Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg himself in deposition under oath to the SEC in the transcript that was finally unearthed and unsealed this week. He states “SOLD THE DATA.” Yea, this matters because it means Facebook leadership knew the data was sold and covered it up. 5/5
@jasonkint Hi Jason - good to see you on here as well!
Re: that quote: What it explicitly says, though, is that the "app developer" sold it, not Facebook - no? Not sure how that quote helps the argument.
@wurstsemmel If 1) they knew it was sold, 2) it was done by an intermediary set up by the purchasing party, 3) Facebook hired the seller on to its payroll/staff, this would all matter, yes? Sounds like it was laundered to me.
@jasonkint Don't know... To me, it sounds more like they were kind of impressed by what he had done, and probably, they also felt some guilt and wanted to minimize the liability of him saying certain things at the wrong time.
@wurstsemmel @jasonkint This FB data dump just before XMas (great job FB PR!) sounds exactly like a data laundering operation combined with a corresponding money laundering operation. I don’t know how you cannot at least mention this. None of this was accidental, they knew or should have known what was going on, then they handed the guy a profit. What happened to journalism?
@wurstsemmel @jasonkint my thoughts exactly. I would not be shocked by a revelation that Facebook did sell data - they did explicitly embed their employees with far right groups to teach them how to use Facebook for propaganda. But this does not say they sold data.
It says data was sold by a third party and they punished that third party for it.
@jasonkint Yes, I recall the narrative was Facebook was shocked and appalled that Cambridge Analytica somehow snuck that data away from them and applied it in the way they did without their knowing/consenting.
@jasonkint I don't think there's a single tech outlet that's willing to go after a major advertiser directly. Hasn't been since I've been in the business, going back 40 years.
@jasonkint I don't believe the data was "sold" in any of these cases. In the Cambridge Analytica case it was collected through a Facebook app, during a period when Facebook (unwisely) allowed any app to access the profiles of friends of the app user.
@jonathanstray If 1) they knew it was sold, 2) it was done by an intermediary set up by the purchasing party, 3) Facebook hired the seller on to its payroll/staff, this would all matter, yes? Sounds like it was laundered to me. Zuckerberg himself says it was sold.
@jasonkint Do you have any actual evidence for 2 and 3? Or that Facebook saw any of this money?
@jonathanstray yea, #2 was from testimony by the SCL/Cambridge employee who helped them set up their shop and #3 was reported, confirmed and included in written testimony to Senate Intelligence committee and UK Parliament.
@jonathanstray @jasonkint it was those bloody Facebook games (FarmVille style) designed to create a profile of the user. I seem to recall there was additional controversy in that they had also been able to access the Friends of the initial target?