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mcc

Was planning to stream Symphony of the Night speedrun attempts but I am not sure if this is going to happen due to the XBox Series being seemingly borderline broken for streaming *_* cohost.org/mcc/post/1300871-it

andi on cohostIt gets worseSo searching for a fix I find an interesting suggestion: Mirror your game screen to a PC using the XBox app, then stream that using OBS. What I have learned is that the XBox app(s) are very broken. A chronicle of software depravity follows. So, I log in on the "Xbox Console Companion" app on my Windows 10 PC. It easily lets me connect to the Series X, and shows it is playing "Castlevania: SOTN". (This is the name of Symphony of the Night on the XBox. "SOTN". If you search for "Symphony of the Night" on the XBox store you won't find anything.) Beneath the name of the game is a red circle. I want to dwell on this because it was very weird. It wasn't clearly a button or anything. It wasn't animated. It was just a red circle. If I clicked the red circle, it sort of… throbbed. I could click it as many times I wanted and all it would do is jiggle a little. Uncertain what this means, I try the "Test Streaming" button. This gives me an error dialog explaining that either my XBox or my Console Companion app needs to be upgraded. After a moment of fiddling and a search on Google, I realize what this means is that the XBox Console Companion app is entirely discontinued at this point, and I need to switch to a new app, with a separate Microsoft Store entry, named "XBox". Okay. I download the new app and log in. The interface is not as good as the Console Companion and much much more focused on aggressively selling you things (selling you PC games actually, an interesting decision for the "XBox" app) but whatever. I tell it to link to the XBox, like the Companion did instantly. When I select the XBox, the only thing it will do is bring up a box saying "Let's test remote play". That sounds like what I want. Clicking "Next" causes a few different boxes to flicker on and off screen, and then… it dumps me at an error box saying only "Try again in a bit. Something went wrong. [https://staging.cohostcdn.org/attachment/6dfd1ced-6536-4da5-a658-ebbaa3b0238c/image.png]". This error turns out to be very hard to search for, especially given Microsoft's poor naming choices (every XBox console name seems designed to frustrate Google, app is named "XBox"— "XBox Console Companion" is not a good name but at least it's searchable). But the most common explanation is: This error usually means you have Bluetooth turned off. This is a very interesting comment since my Windows box does not have Bluetooth, and if it did it probably wouldn't be able to reach the XBox which is in another room. I think I might still be able to pull this out; a friend says he got this error before and got it working by repeatedly turning things on and off again. He also may have wound up using the Android app at some point in the process, which opens the interesting possibility that in order to get our Microsoft console to stream to my Microsoft operating system I will need to use a third product, manufactured by Sony actually [https://electronics.sony.com/mobile/smartphone/all/p/xqbq62-b], to negotiate between the two. In the meantime, I am extremely startled by the poor ~user experience~ here. I'm used to Microsoft products working poorly, but what I'd been hearing for years was the XBox was their one line that worked very well. Yet the experience I'm getting here is more akin to a Windows 95 level of glitchiness. Let us count up Microsoft's interface sins: * Streaming is failing, yet instead of any user-facing message of such it not only fails silently but decides to stream something else entirely * Consumer/set-top device shipping in 2023 can reproducibly get into an interface state where clicking a prominent button simply does nothing at all * Dialog box says app may need to be upgraded, where the correct solution is to delete the app and download a different one from the same vendor (I traversed this quickly but a less computer savvy user might not have) * Dialog box saying "Try again in a bit" for a permanent error (possibly a permanent error with an app-detectable cause, such as "bluetooth unavailable"). Guh
mcc

UPDATE: Although my stream worked (although it was delayed by almost half an hour by Xbox-related glitches), by the end I concluded that streaming/remote play is just too hard with the XBox and in future I would only do speedrun attempts with local video recording. Then I discovered
- Unlike PS4/PS5, XBox Series only lets you record up to 5 minutes of video
- The only way around this is to plug in an external drive. Except:

mcc

The XBox has restrictions for external hard drives:
- It must be NTFS, so I can't use my 1TB SD card.
- It must be USB3, so I can't format one of my USB sticks as NTFS and use that.
- The NTFS partition *must* be the *only* partition on the drive (or maybe it must be the first; all I know is when I plugged in my USB3 backup hard drive with HFS+ and NTFS partitions, it said it could only use it if it formatted it)

Isn't this company supposed to make computers. Why don't they know about computers

Hobson Lane

@mcc because and and and for agencies.
At least one US municipal police IT department enabled for sudo accounts on the domain controller so the mayor and city counselors could access their *EMAIL*!!! And IT managers stonewalled FBI agent asking them to shut it down... until FBI caught a botnet on the police department network phoning home (it has been there for years).

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Adam ♿

@hobs this has nothing to do with the post you replied to.

Hobson Lane

@voltagex yea it's a little left field, ranty, sure. I can't see the original post while replying on Tusky. But read it again and the post is about defective MS protocols (NTFS) required on XBOX that break it for many users -- MS not knowing how computers work. And I thought it relevant to mention IT managers with MS certification not knowing how to design networks. Windows and MS IT training seems broke to me. And like the OP sarcastically implied, there may be reasons, I mentioned 1

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