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@grivettcarnac@mstdn.socialMy take away having a big, electric cargo bike for 1.5 years is scheduled maintenance. Enviolo gears “themselves” are great. No issues with that aspect. But fuck me the gear changing system is a nightmare. Both cables replaced, cable housings replaced and then another cable snapped this morning. You can manually “move” the gears and just adjust your e-boost as you pedal so it’s still useable but shit this system is rough #biketooter #ottawa #ottbike #enviolo #cargobike
@grivettcarnac are the cable housings getting water and contaminants in there / freezing? Maybe better cover and arranged for drainage, even if it's condensation. Would electronic shifting be more resilient? Hydraulic maybe but who makes the things you would need on both ends of that hose?
@enobacon I don’t think Enviolo has hydraulic changing capabilities. It’s a big design flaw and pretty frustrating
@grivettcarnac Yes. The hub itself is bombproof. The components around the hub are complete shit, and the reason why I'm getting off this train.
@Andres4NY oh you have experience with this too? I’d read about Enviolo challenges before and now getting to understand why folks don’t like it.
@grivettcarnac Yes, I have 3 hubs (the oldest is from 2012), and I've had to replace many shifters and hub interfaces. The hub interface, in particular, is fragile plastic that gets a fair bit of stress and grit..
All manual though. I haven't tried their automatic shifting.
@Andres4NY oh 100% agree. That plastic piece is shit and such a soft material. I have a mind to figure out how to do all the work myself. Almost spent $300 so far on parts and labour and that’s all a waste now. So frustrating esp with limited expertise in these systems in our city anyway
@grivettcarnac I don't understand why they didn't just use a cable pull and couple it with a return spring.
Regardless of this, the upgrade to the current Pro shifter, including cables, has helped me.
@grivettcarnac Wow, we have over 1000miles on ours and have yet to have an issue, what power are you putting through it and what milage?
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good to know!!
@sboots @grivettcarnac I always seem to talk myself out of expensive bikes but a rholoff hub sure cries out some days
@grivettcarnac it needs some special stuff near horizontal dropouts. Aside from fancy German gears they use two cables (hydraulic?) so it essentially pushes and pulls at the same time.
@sboots it’s been a great system until suddenly it’s not. At. All… pretty frustrated tbh