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Every instance on the Fediverse has its own set of rules written by the people who run that instance.

If you disagree with them, you can move to another instance with different rules.

This is how the Fediverse differs from centralised social media such as Twitter/Facebook/IG, there is no single group or person with power over everyone.

On Mastodon, you can see your instance rules by clicking on the "About this server" link in the bottom left.

@feditips If you don't like any of the rules anywhere, set your own server up and take responsibility for the security, safety and financial support of the server.

@zleap

Indeed, anyone can set up their own instance. The software and instructions to use it are all free, and there are managed hosting services for people who need help with the technical side of things.

@zleap @feditips "anyone can setup a server" is false information. Less tech inclined users are definitely not able to setup a server and misleading informations like this damage the Fediverse reputation, because it leads to highly frustrated non-users. Been there, done that, got no shirt. Personally I think that "everyone can setup a server" is a highly arrogant attitude.

@zleap @feditips To make that really true the multiple Fediverse flavor need to become WAY more userfriendly and hosting-friendly. Until then it's a solution for geeks and nerds.

@holzi @feditips Agreed, how can we make it easier. At the same time balance free speech / expression with safeguarding vulnerable groups

We can do this, we just need to convince users or potential users regarding that.?

@zleap @holzi @feditips teach users they are now their own censors and if they can’t handle it find a nanny node.

@Coyote @holzi @feditips

I think one of the reasons all this grooming takes place is because parents seem to use devices as electronic babysitting devices. Or are blind to the fact of the dangers, as they are so hooked and trusting of these platforms.

@zleap @feditips We do not need safeguarding of vulnerable groups we need to consequently remove offensive, hateful, misogynistic and racist posts. And we will need to acknowledge that rightwing idiots also can setup those platforms and that we need to block those, so they can live on their own in their small bubble of narrow-mindedness and hate. Hate is not an opinion and as such not protected. So there will ne a workflow on how and when to block instances from fediverse.

@zleap @feditips ... but that's a meta discussion as long as the access threshold to the Fediverse is way too high for most users.

@holzi @feditips

Agreed, so explain HOW the fediverse works to people and how they can block.

At the same time good education to tackle hate is also important.

@zleap @holzi @feditips

These are very good topics to address on the #SocialHub forum.

There are many issues where #fediverse can and should be improved. Fedi is still weak. I agree with Xanathon that the current take on things is too technical and geeky.

And I encourage people to join SocialHub community and raise their voice from different perspectives and background. For the purpose of broadening vision beyond tech stuffz I created the #FediverseFutures section.

socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

@zleap @holzi @feditips thanks. Yes, I think it is important. The community needs to be more active in coordinating things together. Currently there's too much fragmentation, and it is holding back a healthy evolution of fedi.

@humanetech @holzi @feditips

Indeed we need to be more like Big tech in terms of vision and direction while at the same time keep that autonomy and individual platform idea, but under an agreed set of standards I guess.

@humanetech @zleap @feditips Yes, absolutely! The fragmentation is a major part of the problem, since a lot of platform developers jealously do their thing without thinking about interoperability and the broader scope.

@holzi @humanetech @feditips

So how can we solve or resolve that ? How do we decide on a common set of values or goals we can get behind.

We need to make a good social and technical argument for certain features, perhaps

@zleap @holzi @feditips

There was an interesting and large fedi discussion, that is now a forum topic, about setting up a foundation that facilitates the coordination, community growth and provides a 'common voice' to the outside world.

See: socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

@humanetech @holzi @feditips

Thanks for this have sent the link to my self so will look from my main computer later as this netbook will struggle otherwise.

@holzi @zleap @feditips I'm working on a script to install pleroma. I'm not quite done with the instruction page, but it currently works if you have a domain name pointed at an Ubuntu based VPS from somewhere like Digital Ocean or Linode. You can see it at yarrps.xyz

@holzi @zleap

If you use managed hosting, anyone can set up a server, because the managed hosting service handles all the technical stuff.

Services like masto.host don't have a technical barrier.

Also, could you please be less inflammatory in your replies? Accusing others of arrogance and spreading false information in your very first post of someone else's thread is not helping to foster a friendly atmosphere.

@feditips @zleap I spoke from personal experience with mutliple developers from multiple Fediverse applications and I did not even mention conrete names, even if I could have. I encountered a very hostile "atmosphere" attitude from multiple Fediverse-related projects after simly reporting bugs in a neutral and technical manner. So I really cannot understand how you can accuse me of something like that when I'm just stating facts.

@feditips @zleap Aside from that: most trustworthy managed hosting for Fediverse flavours is grossly overpriced and that is another major hindrance on the spread of Fediverse.

And: The original statement was: "everyone can install and host a Fediverse flavor" and that simply is very wrong.

@holzi @zleap

To go with the Masto.host example, here's their pricing for managed hosting of a Mastodon instance:

Smallest package is 6 euros a month for 5 active users. That's 1.2 euros per user per month.

Largest package is 89 euros a month for 2000 active users. That's 0.04 euros per user per month.

I wouldn't call that "grossly overpriced".

@feditips @zleap Mastodon is a Twitter clone, not a social network with profiles, pages, groups, files repository, chat. I have yet to find trustworthy and reasonably priced managed hosting for Hubzilla, Friendica or Misskey.

@feditips Oh wow! That "About this server" link is an awesome feature!

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